[ncc-services-wg] RIPE tasks

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

> >>> This poll of the LIR membership is to be performed no later than 4
> >>> months
> >>> prior to the start of the next financial year, thereby leaving the
> >>> RIPE NCC
> >>> sufficient time to reorganize its staff.
> >>
> >> I am somewhat against the "poll of the LIR membership". I think a
> >> discussion at each NCC service WG is good. For practical reasons I
> >> would suggest (and this is actually something that Axel suggested to
> >> me in Barcelona as one of the tasks of the WG) that planned and
> >> existing projects are discussed in relation with the next years
> >> budget at the autumn RIPE meeting. This would give the NCC enough
> >> time to work on Budgets based on the discussions. I guess that one
> >> problem that arises is if we are also to accept the budget at the AGM
> >> that is in association with that RIPE meeting, the time in between is
> >> very short.
> >
> > A discussion doesn't get a true measure of the membership.It gets 
> > the voice of the LIRs that can afford the travel, the LIRs that are
> > closer to the venue to make travel easier, and the LIRs with a bigger
> > voice in meetings.What is the % of LIRs that attend?
> 
> That is a good point, but holding the poll will also take resources. I
> am not against a poll as such, butin order to cast the vote, the LIRs
> will also need to dedicate resources to follow the development and make
> sure they understand what they are voting for. We also need to take
> into account what it means to cancel a project, and what the NCC
> management does with this.

I am sure the LIRs that don't want to dedicate resources to follow the
development will be the same that don't subscribe to any of the lists and
the same that don't attend any RIPE meetings.  No one is forcing anyone to
participate, but we are just giving a wider population of LIRs a chance to
effect change.

> 
> > In regards to the mechanics, budgets and timing - it very well may not
> > work out for 2004 and I would be happy to see the above proposal
> > hashed out and implemented in 2004 to affect the 2005 budget. -Hank
> 
> Seems reasonable to me.

Thanks.  I hope this item finds its way onto the agenda.

> 
> - kurtis -
> 

Hank Nussbacher