[ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering

I absolutely agree with Saleem and John,

Last week I was in a workshop prepared by the ITU Arab regional office on IP Strategies and IDN Issues, a good initiative/proposal from our colleagues in Bahrain exchange was presented at the workshop on the same subject.

Basically, the initiative is about having 3 interconnected NAPs one for the GCC countries in Dubai; second one for the Middle East Arab countries in Egypt and the last one for western Arab countries in Morocco.

I believe this initiative worth to be discussed.

You can download the presentation from http://www.ituarabic.org/IPS-IDN/Documents/Doc08- NAP FOR THE ARAB STATES.ppt

Some more documents on ADN and other stuff are presented and also available for download on http://www.ituarabic.org/IPS-IDN/

Best Regards

A. Moeen Aqrabawi
Etisalat/UAE  





-----Original Message-----
From: ncc-regional-middle-east-admin at ripe.net [mailto:ncc-regional-middle-east-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of John Leong
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:58 AM
To: Saleem Albalooshi; ncc-regional-middle-east at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering


Sorry for the late response.  Yes, it is totally inefficient (and strange) 
to have traffic between the GCC countries to go through the US.

Not only will it add latency you are also unecessary using up some very 
expensive long haul bandwidth.  BTW:  On latency, while the longer round 
trip propagation delay is clearly a factor, the real pain is additional 
router hops.  Routers are real nasty since besides queueing delay, they are 
congestion points.  The impact of packet loss [on TCP] is orders of 
magnitude more than any propagation delay, since you will have to pay the 
direct penality of time out [to discover you have lost a packet] as well as 
suffer longer term side effect of having you transmission window reduced.

In any event, you should peer with each other within the GCC.  From 
engineering point of view, NAP makes a lot of sense.  However, practically, 
most of the ISPs do bi-lateral rather than multilateral peering at a single 
location so the NAP's role is somewhat diminished.

Best regards,
John



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saleem Albalooshi" <saleem at nic.ae>
To: <ncc-regional-middle-east at ripe.net>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:26 AM
Subject: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering


> Dear All,
> Kindly find below a writeup about the importance of establishing peering 
> connectivity between the regional ISP's, please feel free to correct or 
> comment on any technical or linguistic information in the writeup below.
>
> Saleem Al-Balooshi
> UAEnic
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