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</style><div class="message-content-body" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: fixed;">This would not be micro-managing, this would be more akin to a case study.<div><br></div><div>A deep dive in the world of how RIPE NCC spends a budget for IT, what do they take into consideration, which spending alternatives do they investigate, what considerations are important and which are less important. It is a fine podium for the NCC to showcase the cost effectiveness of the choosen solution and the surrounding policies for fi. data minimalization.</div><div><br></div><div>A deep dive presentation in Prague + discussion with an audience where the most vocal persons are most likely on top of mount stupid and the once that know are either in the valley of despair or are ascending to the slope of enlightenment the will ensure a lively and entertaining 60 minutes. (please schedule this just before the whiskey-BoF)<br><div><br></div><div><div style="; font-size: 10pt; font-family: " source="" sans="" pro="" sans-serif="">-- <div>IDGARA | Alex de Joode | alex@idgara.nl | +31651108221 <br></div></div></div><br>On Tue, 28-05-2024 12h 43min, Aleksandar Markovic <a.markovic@expressotelecom.com> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin-left: 10px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: 1px solid #ccc;"><div><div>+1<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: members-discuss <a href="mailto:<members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net>"><members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net></a> On Behalf Of George Porter<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 2:38 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br><axiquotedmarker></axiquotedmarker>Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM<br><br>Sorry , this is incorrect, asking questions is not micromanaging anything, its just asking for information. In the UK we can ask our members of parliament any question we want on government spending and what is spent where this is not micro managing the country . Its not about micro management, its just about asking for information. So just shut up and let RIPE answer the question, and further RIPE haven't done a good job, otherwise we wouldn't be so much communications about budget and spending. <br><br>Kind Regards,<br>George Porter<br>Operations Director<br>Integrated Network Services Ltd <br><br><br>Contact Us<br>The Heath Business & Technical Park<br>Runcorn<br>WA7 4QX<br><br>01928 238 390<br><a href="mailto:support@in-services.co.uk">support@in-services.co.uk</a> <br><br>SUPPLY – INSTALL – SUPPORT<br><br>This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. 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Registered in England 7360277.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: members-discuss <a href="mailto:<members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net>"><members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net></a> On Behalf Of Daniel Suchy via members-discuss<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:26 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br>Cc: Daniel Suchy <a href="mailto:<danny@danysek.cz>"><danny@danysek.cz></a><br>Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM<br><br>Do you micromanage also your goverment in your country? ;-) I don't think so. You rather prefer to censor everything, don't you? :-)<br><br>Transparency level of RIPE NCC is very high. More than anything within your country. Rather you should start organizing your inland affairs in terms of transparency.<br><br>RIPE NCC operation does not need any fundamental changes, as far as transparency is concerned. On the contrary, you can learn from them how it should be done.<br><br>- Daniel<br><br><br>On 5/27/24 1:11 PM, ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED wrote:<br>> Its okay :)<br>> Some members doesnt want transperancy.<br>> Im happy about they leave comments and show their position.<br>> <br>> <br>> Waiting next...<br>> <br>> <br>> On 27.05.2024 10:56, Mihail Fedorov wrote:<br>>> Pardon, am I reading it right?<br>>><br>>> People here are praising lack of transparency and control as <br>>> something good? Just because they don’t want to read reports? It’s insane.<br>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: members-discuss <a href="mailto:<members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net>"><members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net></a> On Behalf <br>>>> Of Randy Bush<br>>>> Sent: søndag 26. mai 2024 19:46<br>>>> To: ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED <a href="mailto:<admin@roskomnadzor.io>"><admin@roskomnadzor.io></a><br>>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br>>>> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of <br>>>> last GM<br>>>><br>>>>> No, Im already seen this article. Its same what are was been showed <br>>>>> on GM. Its doesnt have detalization.<br>>>><br>>>> i, for one, do not want detail. if i wanted to micro-manage the <br>>>> ncc, i would fill out a job application. they have done an amazing <br>>>> job for decades, and i trust them to keep doing so. the extent of <br>>>> the ncc's transparency is often more than i have time read.<br>>>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>members-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6C%69%73%74%69%6E%66%6F%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/george.porter%40in-services.co.uk" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6F%70%74%69%6F%6E%73%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73%2F%67%65%6F%72%67%65%2E%70%6F%72%74%65%72%25%34%30%69%6E%2D%73%65%72%76%69%63%65%73%2E%63%6F%2E%75%6B" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/george.porter%40in-services.co.uk</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>members-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6C%69%73%74%69%6E%66%6F%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a.markovic%40expressotelecom.com" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6F%70%74%69%6F%6E%73%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73%2F%61%2E%6D%61%72%6B%6F%76%69%63%25%34%30%65%78%70%72%65%73%73%6F%74%65%6C%65%63%6F%6D%2E%63%6F%6D" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a.markovic%40expressotelecom.com</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>members-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6C%69%73%74%69%6E%66%6F%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/alex%40idgara.nl" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6F%70%74%69%6F%6E%73%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73%2F%61%6C%65%78%25%34%30%69%64%67%61%72%61%2E%6E%6C" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/alex%40idgara.nl</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>