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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">+1 for this statement as well.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">Von:
</span></b><span style="color:black">members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> im Auftrag von Tobias Fiebig via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net><br>
<b>Datum: </b>Montag, 27. Mai 2024 um 13:35<br>
<b>An: </b>members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Tobias Fiebig <tobias+ripe@fiebig.nl><br>
<b>Betreff: </b>Re: [members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Moin,<br>
<br>
So, first of all; +1 to Randy's point.<br>
<br>
Second:<br>
<br>
> Its okay :)<br>
> Some members doesnt want transperancy.<br>
> Im happy about they leave comments and show their position.<br>
<br>
What I presume these +1-ing members (like me) are mildly frustrated<br>
with is a set of specific members--without pointing fingers--being<br>
relatively avid in issuing 'transparency' asks, while it becomes<br>
increasingly difficult to ascertain whether the objective here is<br>
transparency, or whether transparency becomes a vehicle to make<br>
requests targeted at drowning the organization in repetitive<br>
unnecessary tasks and preventing consensus seem reasonable.<br>
<br>
And for all other points, I refer to my comment from the last meeting:<br>
<br>
We couldn't agree on something when the task would be 'Every member<br>
gets a free ball of ice cream'; I mean... Vanilla, Strawberry,<br>
Chocolate, without Milk... decisions to be made! Heck, for what it's<br>
worth, I doubt that _two_ LIRs could resolve this question (or... one,<br>
if the one offered a free ball of ice cream would be me).<br>
<br>
The level of detail ask for, e.g., the (rapidly decreasing!) rack use<br>
in AMS... I am certain there would be enough questions phrased as<br>
comments alone on that to double the LIR fee next year (to pay for the<br>
increased operating cost of the mailinglist...)<br>
<br>
So, please... let the RIPE NCC do its job. If you want to get more<br>
intricately involved in the daily operations of systems, I suggest to<br>
go here: <a href="https://www.ripe.net/about-us/staff/careers-at-the-ripe-ncc/">https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fstaff%2Fcareers-at-the-ripe-ncc%2F&data=05%7C02%7CSebastian-Becker%40telekom.de%7Cce9a2a65947046346bb108dc7e412657%7Cbde4dffc4b604cf68b04a5eeb25f5c4f%7C0%7C0%7C638524065474314346%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wRZ5TKDKpQxJRw2s120tOgBj5Pbc%2FvS1Kwy3SXGWnmc%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
<br>
With best regards,<br>
Tobias <br>
<br>
P.S.:<br>
> Waiting next...<br>
<br>
Oh, is there a queue? Do me, do me! de.wybt! If all the cool kids^W<br>
LIRs get this, I want in, too!<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig<br>
T +31 616 80 98 99<br>
M tobias@fiebig.nl<br>
<br>
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