<div dir="ltr"> I believe RIPE it is the only RIR who charges its members the same amount no matter the resource holder! Other RIRs like APNIC and many other RIRs: <a href="https://www.apnic.net/get-ip/apnic-membership/how-much-does-it-cost/member-fees-calculator/" target="_blank">https://www.apnic.net/get-ip/apnic-membership/how-much-does-it-cost/member-fees-calculator/</a> have a great and fair solution about resource holders. <div>If you believe that only you and or RIPE is right then tell other RIRs should be sued!</div></div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 6:16 PM Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi, On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 05:22:09PM +0200, Mentor Leniqi wrote: > It is really simple Gert! Split your resource with us who have only one > /24, and you won't hear us complaining about this! I see that you have a > "moto" (*have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?) *Why not > release/return IPv4, and stay on your moto with IPv6 :) > Where did you get "*Those that make an enormous amount of noise here are > those that want all the benefits and have others pay for it*."?! Aren't we > all paying the same fee of membership with one /24 a.k.a you 100+ /24? And > because of this, we are complaining. > You know, ripe uses database to store things/network etc, as per your > logic, the database size is the same for /24 and for 100+x/24? If yes, then > you/RIPE have my vote, if no, you should and members like you should pay > 5-10x more than those with one /24. So we're now making those that do properly document their end-user assignments (= lots of database objects) pay more than those who are sloppy in documenting? That does not sound like a really good idea. And yes, I have understood your point, no need to repeat it another 473 times. YOU HAVE MORE RESOURCES THAN I HAVE SO YOU MUST PAY MORE. No, this is not how membership organizations work - RIPE NCC is not renting out address space (and there are very good tax reasons against moving there). Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 </blockquote></div>