<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div class="WordSection1"> So some of you want “bigger” members to pay more, others are demanding that all members be “equal”<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It’s been explained multiple times by multiple people why the charging scheme is currently the way it is (TLDR members voted to do it this way)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It’s also been explained multiple times by multiple people that if the membership don’t want activities they need to tell the NCC / Board. Apparently even though the Board has solicited feedback they haven’t got much. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> So we’re now in some kind of circle of hell where a bunch of vocal members keep asking for something that they’re never going to get, due to the method they’ve chosen to ask for it. <o:p></o:p> While the rest of us have our inboxes flooded with more and more futile emails from the subset of members who aren’t listening to those who have explained how the system actually works. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Fortunately the RIPE meeting will take place in a few days time and we’ll either all be able to move on with our lives or remove ourselves from this mailing list <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -- <o:p></o:p> Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p> Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p> Hosting, Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p> <a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><o:p></o:p> <a href="https://blacknight.blog/">https://blacknight.blog/</a><o:p></o:p> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p> Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a><o:p></o:p> Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a><o:p></o:p> -------------------------------<o:p></o:p> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED <admin@roskomnadzor.io> Date: Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 16:29 To: Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan@go6.si>, members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. If you pay taxes MORE - its doesnt give you additional votes! RIPE is Association - you cant have "shares". Payment per resources mean - EVERY pay SAME amount. Every member will be pay SAME AMOUNT PER RESOURCES! i.e. 10 EUR/YEAR per 256 IPv4. If you dont want to pay more? -> return resources to RIPE! If you have large scale resources doesnt mean about you must have more votes! On 14.05.2024 15:16, Jan Zorz - Go6 wrote: > On 14. 5. 24 15:05, ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED wrote: >> If big organization pay a large amount of taxes - are they have more >> votes? Im think so - NO. > > If you have more shares in the company - you have more votes :) > >> >> In proportional model - you pay FIXED amount PER RESOURCE. >> Why Big members must have more votes? They pay same as other! > > If big members would pay significantly higher members fee price (due to > larger IPv4 space), then it's only logical that they would request > proportionally more votes at the GM :) > > Do we really want that? > > Cheers, Jan > > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss@ripe.net > <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> > Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40roskomnadzor.io"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40roskomnadzor.io</a> > > > > _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/michele%40blacknight.com"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/michele%40blacknight.com</a><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>