<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div class="WordSection1"> So some of you want �bigger� members to pay more, others are demanding that all members be �equal�<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It�s been explained multiple times by multiple people why the charging scheme is currently the way it is (TLDR members voted to do it this way)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It�s also been explained multiple times by multiple people that if the membership don�t want activities they need to tell the NCC / Board. Apparently even though the Board has solicited feedback they haven�t got much. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> So we�re now in some kind of circle of hell where a bunch of vocal members keep asking for something that they�re never going to get, due to the method they�ve chosen to ask for it. <o:p></o:p> While the rest of us have our inboxes flooded with more and more futile emails from the subset of members who aren�t listening to those who have explained how the system actually works. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Fortunately the RIPE meeting will take place in a few days time and we�ll either all be able to move on with our lives or remove ourselves from this mailing list <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -- <o:p></o:p> Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p> Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p> Hosting, Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p> <a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><o:p></o:p> <a href="https://blacknight.blog/">https://blacknight.blog/</a><o:p></o:p> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p> Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a><o:p></o:p> Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a><o:p></o:p> -------------------------------<o:p></o:p> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED <admin@roskomnadzor.io> Date: Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 16:29 To: Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan@go6.si>, members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. If you pay taxes MORE - its doesnt give you additional votes! RIPE is Association - you cant have "shares". Payment per resources mean - EVERY pay SAME amount. Every member will be pay SAME AMOUNT PER RESOURCES! i.e. 10 EUR/YEAR per 256 IPv4. If you dont want to pay more? -> return resources to RIPE! If you have large scale resources doesnt mean about you must have more votes! On 14.05.2024 15:16, Jan Zorz - Go6 wrote: > On 14. 5. 24 15:05, ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED wrote: >> If big organization pay a large amount of taxes - are they have more >> votes? Im think so - NO. > > If you have more shares in the company - you have more votes :) > >> >> In proportional model - you pay FIXED amount PER RESOURCE. >> Why Big members must have more votes? They pay same as other! > > If big members would pay significantly higher members fee price (due to > larger IPv4 space), then it's only logical that they would request > proportionally more votes at the GM :) > > Do we really want that? > > Cheers, Jan > > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss@ripe.net > <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> > Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40roskomnadzor.io"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40roskomnadzor.io</a> > > > > _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/michele%40blacknight.com"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/michele%40blacknight.com</a><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>