<div dir="ltr">Exactly, and interestingly those with a huge amount of IPv4 space are the loudest and so called "care too much for RIPE NCC"!<div> </div><div>Cheers.</div></div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 5:04 PM <<a href="mailto:m.terzioglu@prebits.de">m.terzioglu@prebits.de</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello, You have: 10 x IPv4 Allocations 2 x IPv6 Allocations 2 x ASNs You will pay with the new charging scheme between 2600 - 2900€ yearly. Your 10 x IPv4 Subnets includes more than 400 x /24 IPv4 subnets. This has a commercial benefit. Than pay to our non-profit Organization, RIPE NCC, proportional as your commercial benefit from our "Internet" for community building, training, ATLAS, EB, Office, HR, etc... proportional from/for all the costs.. Using the whole Internet Resources so much as you have, but pay for that unequal... But I am sure, you think your benefit and want to pay for your resource as low as possible... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Murat TERZIOGLU PREBITS Bochumer Str. 20 44866 Bochum Deutschland Telefon: 0234/58825994 Telefax: 0234/58825995 <a href="http://www.prebits.de" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.prebits.de</a> <a href="mailto:info@prebits.de" target="_blank">info@prebits.de</a> USt-ID: DE315418902 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net" target="_blank">gert@space.net</a>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2024 16:17 An: <a href="mailto:m.terzioglu@prebits.de" target="_blank">m.terzioglu@prebits.de</a> Cc: 'Simon Lockhart' <<a href="mailto:simon@slimey.org" target="_blank">simon@slimey.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members Hi, On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:11:35PM +0200, <a href="mailto:m.terzioglu@prebits.de" target="_blank">m.terzioglu@prebits.de</a> wrote: > Unfortunately, i don’t have budget for "Community Building"... I paid > already enough for RIPE NCC... Which is, I think, part of the problem here. The Internet works because many different companies that all compete with each other business-wise have to cooperate to "make that thing work", and this is really helped by having people to talk to, get and offer advice, and so on. Namely, a community of network folks. So, I see "community building" and "keep the governments off our backs" (by outreach, training, etc.) as fundamental pillars of the work the RIPE NCC does, for all of us. And we're happy to fund that. And no, this has nothing to do with how many resources a LIR has. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/mentor.leniqi%40albahost.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/mentor.leniqi%40albahost.net</a> </blockquote></div>