<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Jan,<div><br></div><div>this is not a result of the activity plan. That is a reaction of the members, because the EB offered three, but actually similar proposals with a 20% increase and they didnt consider the voices in the last years. the members made a reaction by votiong for a proposal like this.</div><div><br></div><div>a LIR with more than 3% of the allocation organised by RIPE NCC pays same as a LIR who owns lower than %0,001 of the total resource of the RIPE NCC. </div><div><br></div><div>So many of the voter voted for this because they find this and the desicion to propose sort of ilusion unfair.</div><div><br></div><div>I followed also this discussion, and this discussion was about the charging scheme, and yes, there were the signs of the reaction of the members..</div><div><br></div><div>To ensure the budget on shoulders of the smal LIRs without offering any other charging options, is not fair!</div><div><br></div><div>This wont bring a “stable future”.</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><o:p> </o:p>--</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span lang="TR">Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards<br><br></span><b><span lang="TR">Murat TERZIOGLU</span></b><span lang="TR"><br></span><b>PREBITS - Premium Business IT Solutions</b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Bochumer Str. 20</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">D-44866 Bochum</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Telefon: <span dir="ltr">0234/58825994</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Telefax: <span dir="ltr">0234/58825995</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">www.prebits.de<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">m.terzioglu@prebits.de</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">USt-ID: DE315418902</span></p></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">Am 10.05.2024 um 17:59 schrieb Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan@go6.si>:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>On 8. 5. 24 10:48, Martin Millnert via members-discuss wrote> In a</span><br><span>representative democratic system the voters elect</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>representatives to represent their opinions in the governing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>body/bodies. The apparent terminal conclusion from the executive</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>boards handling of the opinions expressed on the charging scheme</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>question, for the many not being heard in any clear terms at all, is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to elect new representatives more accurately representing the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>membership.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is easy to foresee “cost reductions” being a quite popular agenda</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>item for any future board candidate. And that will probably remain</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the case for a period of time longer than any individual board seat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>election time. Time will tell how it actually plays out. In any</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>case, I will support a candidate who articulates ambitions to work</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>towards meaningful cost reductions.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>I've been quietly following this whole discussion about the budget and I</span><br><span>don't understand how we (the members, GM) can approve the plan of</span><br><span>activities, projects and actions for the RIPE NCC and at the next</span><br><span>meeting we (the members, GM) cut down their budget.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In normal business world, this doesn't work like this :)</span><br><span></span><br><span>If you approve the activity plan - then you need to assure the budget</span><br><span>for it.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So the real discussion shouldn't be the budget and member fees, but the</span><br><span>activity plan - the budget needs to follow that. :)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers, Jan</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>members-discuss mailing list</span><br><span>members-discuss@ripe.net</span><br><span>https://mailman.ripe.net/</span><br><span>Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/m.terzioglu%40prebits.de</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>