<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=koi8-r"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir="ltr"> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Hi members, </div> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> We should really not be voting for this make the big players pay, I saw something that would work well but got ignored.</div> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> "</div> <ol start="1" data-list-id="chat-messages" data-listchain="__List_Chain_139" style="text-align: left; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-position: initial; list-style-type: none; background-color: rgb(49, 51, 56);"> <li style="font-family: "gg sans", "Noto Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0px;"> <div style="margin: 0px; padding-top: var(--custom-message-spacing-vertical-container-cozy); padding-right: 48px; padding-bottom: var(--custom-message-spacing-vertical-container-cozy); padding-left: var(--custom-message-margin-left-content-cozy); min-height: 1.375rem;"> <pre style="margin: 6px 0px 0px; border-radius: 4px; max-width: 90%;"><div style="line-height: 1rem; white-space: pre-wrap; margin: 0px; font-family: var(--font-code); font-size: 14px; color: var(--text-normal);"><code style="font-family: var(--font-code); display: block;">Im suggest this scheme LIR membership fixed fee - 100 EUR/year per account + Resouce based fee: - ASN - 0 EUR/year per ASN - IPv6 - 0.05 EUR/year per IPv6 /48 (i.e. /48 = 0.05 EUR/year, /29 = 50 EUR/year) - IPv4 - 0.046875 EUR/year per IPv4 /32 (i.e. /24 = 12 EUR/year, /22 = 48 EUR/year) With parsed public stats from RIPE its resulted as = 42 529 216 EUR (TOTAL) -------------------------------- 2 149 200 EUR (LIR fixed fee) 1 152 761 EUR (IPv6) 39 227 255 EUR (IPv4) Someone say, ITS TO HIGH... But stop! IPv/4 on market for lease cost over 100 EUR/month (or 1200 EUR/year), but for LIR its will be cost only 12 EUR/year(!) - x100 difference! If some LIR dont want to have x100 profit over year - then, this LIR can return resources to RIPE pool and its will be RE-distributed across LIRs who seek resources.</code></div></pre> </div> </li></ol> <div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> "</div> <div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Not sure who posted it but I think this would be the most "fair" way as the current billing scheme does not look "fair" at all right now, someone with a /8 is paying the same as someone who has a /24 please just stop and take that in.</div> <div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> You are letting the rich get richer, please do not vote for this and actually make a change. </div> <div id="Signature" style="color: inherit; background-color: inherit;"> <div style="text-align: left; font-family: "Bahnschrift Condensed"; font-size: 18pt; color: rgb(118, 62, 155);"> <b><br> </b></div> <div style="text-align: left; font-family: "Bahnschrift Condensed"; font-size: 18pt; color: rgb(118, 62, 155);"> <b>Kind regards,</b></div> <div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: "Bahnschrift Condensed"; font-size: 18pt; color: rgb(118, 62, 155);"> <b><br> </b></div> <div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: "Bahnschrift Condensed"; font-size: 18pt; color: rgb(118, 62, 155);"> <b>Blake @ BGP Technologies LTD.</b></div> </div> <div id="appendonsend" style="color: inherit; background-color: inherit;"></div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <hr style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="color: inherit; background-color: inherit;"> <span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net><br> <b>Sent:</b> 24 April 2024 16:33<br> <b>To:</b> members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] GM topic</span> <div> </div> </div> <div style="font-size: 11pt;">I'll support that, it's simple enough.<br> <br> On 4/24/24 10:28 AM, Max Tulyev wrote:<br> > I have created the request for GM Agenda proposal "Keep current<br> > billing scheme for the next year".<br> ><br> > Now it depends on your support. If there will be 400 supports, it<br> > should be included to GM.<br> ><br> > Here it is the link:<br> > <a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/member-proposals/1/" id="OWA8b0cd3de-17fd-b3dc-7b6b-d8cbf2acef98" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/member-proposals/1/</a><br> ><br> > You just need to click on the "Support" button.<br> ><br> > 24.04.24 17:37, Max Tulyev пише:<br> >> Hello!<br> >><br> >> I as the member would like to add a topic for vote on GM.<br> >><br> >> What is the procedure to do that?<br> >><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> members-discuss mailing list<br> >> members-discuss@ripe.net<br> >> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" id="OWA61cf6f58-48e6-aa34-8acd-e84c7e8409a9" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br> >> Unsubscribe:<br> >> <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/maxtul%40netassist.ua" id="OWA5fb846cc-bf0c-8d3d-ef9a-0d7b4d50843e" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/maxtul%40netassist.ua</a><br> >><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > members-discuss mailing list<br> > members-discuss@ripe.net<br> > <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" id="OWAd4794212-e1f8-36ee-ab7f-195d368d29cf" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br> > Unsubscribe:<br> > <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/daniel%40privatesystems.net" id="OWAa59768b0-c761-83bd-c78f-b331c9e30cf1" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/daniel%40privatesystems.net</a><br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> members-discuss mailing list<br> members-discuss@ripe.net<br> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" id="OWA985b18a1-67eb-53e6-267d-bc7340eb30fe" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/blake66%40live.co.uk" id="OWA42791163-53d5-4e29-e133-f7739e4f43a9" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/blake66%40live.co.uk</a></div> </body> </html>