<!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Moin, am 17.04.24 um 13:35 schrieb Gert Doering: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:Zh-z5w-VSVwNCEEn@Space.Net"> <pre><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 01:04:24PM +0200, Firma KOMPEX wrote: </pre><blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;"><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Of course the people at RIPE made mistakes. In the old days they issued /8, /12, /14, /16, /18, /20 without any justification and demand for IP addresses. </pre></blockquote><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">This is blatantly wrong. There was NEVER a time when you could get addresses from the RIPE NCC without justification and proven demand. Especially when coming back and asking for more, the NCC was very thoroughly asking for documentation that all(!) existing allocations were filled to 90% (which was only much later lowered to 80%).</pre></pre> </blockquote> Second this; been there, done that as Hostmaster in the late 90's — while you could get another /16 e. g. for your growing dial up or hosting business, you had to present proper documentation on how you are using your already allocated space. And there were audits, especially if you did foobar your documentation in the past. And THAT was a PITA ;-) </memorylane> Anyway, IPv4 is gone now. It was clear from the beginning of the RIR system that IPv4 suppy will run out sooner or later; with CIDR the inflexible Class A/B/C system was removed (so with a need for 1000 addresses you didn't justify to receive a whoppy /16 directly anymore), but IPv4 would run out nonetheless. Let's focus on the future: IPv6 ... Regards, -kai <pre class="moz-signature" cols="999">-- Kai Siering Senior System Engineer mail.de GmbH Münsterstraße 3 D-33330 Gütersloh Tel.: +49 (0) 5241 / 74 34 986 Fax: +49 (0) 5241 / 74 34 987 E-Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k.siering@team.mail.de">k.siering@team.mail.de</a> Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mail.de/">https://mail.de/</a> Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter: Fabian Bock Sitz der Gesellschaft Nordhastedt Handelsregister Pinneberg HRB 8007 PI Steuernummer 18 293 20020</pre> </body> </html>