<html><body><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div>Hi,</div> <div> </div> <div>This is something I was thinking about as well, maybe it is time for RIPE to plan its budget and activities as:</div> <div>- core (LIR related)</div> <div>- extras (ripe atlas, k-root, etc)</div> <div> </div> <div>Core activities is something that should be financed from members fees, while the extras either by voluntary member payments or external financing (sponsors).</div> <div> </div> <div id="signature-content-no-signature" data-marker="__SIG_PRE__"></div> <div id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"> <div id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"> <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8em; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1em;"><hr id="MESSAGE_DATA_MARKER"><strong>From: </strong>Lu <h.lu@anytimechinese.com><br><strong>To: </strong>Michel <michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu><br><strong>Cc: </strong>members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net><br><strong>Date: </strong>Wednesday, 10 April 2024 3:28 PM CEST<br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [members-discuss] Charging Scheme 2025<br><br> <div dir="auto">Hi guys:</div> <div dir="auto"> </div> <div dir="auto">Either we accept higher membership fee or ask ripe stop services that not essential to the registration service, we can not have both here.</div> <div dir="auto"> </div> <div dir="auto">Stop service that is not essential will probably cut membership fee by 80%, ripe NCC please confirm the barebones cost of registration service alone.<br clear="all"><br clear="all"> <div dir="auto"> <div class="gmail_signature" dir="ltr">Lu</div> </div> </div> <div> </div> <div><br> <div class="gmail_quote"> <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 15:58 Michel Lanners <<a href="mailto:michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu</a>> wrote:</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>Dear all, <div> </div> <div>Why on earth is everybody trying to monetize IPv4, i.e. make RIPE fees dependant on IPv4 ressources?</div> <div> </div> <div>I completely fail to see why anybody should pay more for HOLDING any number of IPv4 ressources (or other ressources, by the way).</div> <div> </div> <div>It’s a different story for ressource transfers. So let those selling IPv4 pay a fee for the transfer! </div> <div> </div> <div>And for the rest let’s stick to a real membership fee: one price irrespective of which services you use or not. The fitness center doesn’t charge you per minute, nor per device you use. It's a flat membership, full stop. Hopefully low enough so it doesn’t create a problem for anybody's bottom line.</div> <div> </div> <div>Cheers<br> <div><br> <div><strong>Michel LANNERS</strong></div> <div>CIO at LU-CIX Management G.I.E.</div> <div>--</div> <div><a href="https://www.luxchat.lu/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><img src="https://www.lu-cix.lu/LOGO/sign-20231207.png" width="390" height="122"></a></div> <div>Mail: <a href="mailto:michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu</a></div> <div>Luxchat: @3eb2pdflrq57:<a href="http://01.lu-cix.luxchat.lu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">01.lu-cix.luxchat.lu</a></div> <div>Phone: (+352) 28 99 29 92-81</div> <span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'tahoma' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'tahoma' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif;"> </span></span> <div><strong>LU-CIX Management G.I.E.</strong></div> <div><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/202,+Z.A.E.+Wolser+F?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">202, Z.A.E. Wolser F</a></div> <div>L-3290 Bettembourg</div> <div><a href="https://www.lu-cix.lu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">lu-cix.lu</a></div> <div><a href="https://www.luxchat.lu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">luxchat.lu</a></div> <div><a href="https://luxembourg-internet-days.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">luxembourg-internet-days.com</a></div> <div><a href="https://www.lunog.lu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">lunog.lu</a></div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________<br>members-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/h.lu%40outsideheaven.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/h.lu%40outsideheaven.com</a></blockquote> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div></div></body></html>