<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir="ltr"> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> This is actually really good and should be looked at, people who don't use resources can then return them.</div> <div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: "Bahnschrift Condensed"; font-size: 18pt; color: rgb(118, 62, 155);"> </div> <div id="Signature" style="color: inherit; background-color: inherit;"></div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </div> <hr style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;"> <div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED <admin@roskomnadzor.io> Sent: 10 April 2024 14:46 To: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available</div> <div style="direction: ltr;"> </div> <div style="font-size: 11pt;">Im suggest this scheme LIR membership fixed fee - 100 EUR/year per account + Resouce based fee: - ASN - 0 EUR/year per ASN - IPv6 - 0.05 EUR/year per IPv6 /48 (i.e. /48 = 0.05 EUR/year, /29 = 50 EUR/year) - IPv4 - 0.046875 EUR/year per IPv4 /32 (i.e. /24 = 12 EUR/year, /22 = 48 EUR/year) With parsed public stats from RIPE its resulted as = 42 529 216 EUR (TOTAL) -------------------------------- 2 149 200 EUR (LIR fixed fee) 1 152 761 EUR (IPv6) 39 227 255 EUR (IPv4) Someone say, ITS TO HIGH... But stop! IPv/4 on market for lease cost over 100 EUR/month (or 1200 EUR/year), but for LIR its will be cost only 12 EUR/year(!) - x100 difference! If some LIR dont want to have x100 profit over year - then, this LIR can return resources to RIPE pool and its will be RE-distributed across LIRs who seek resources. On 10.04.2024 13:38, Fergal Cunningham wrote: > Dear Martin, > > The Executive Board decided on these draft options at its meeting on > 25th of March. So now the Board and management will follow the feedback > on the draft proposal on the list. They will decide by 24 April if these > will be the final options to vote on at the GM or if they want to make > amendments. So essentially the decision on what gets voted on at the GM > is made by the Board. You can see the minutes from that meeting here > (section 3.3 on the Charging Scheme): > <a href="https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2024/174th-executive-board-meeting-minutes/" id="OWAdc284e86-0301-76c0-ffe0-11fde857fc48" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2024/174th-executive-board-meeting-minutes/</a> > > And it's worth mentioning that this list is for members to discuss the > issues while we and the board will listen. But we will of course reply > and provide information to address the points raised if at all possible. > > All the best, > Fergal > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:41 PM <sdy@a-n-t.ru <<a href="mailto:sdy@a-n-t.ru" id="OWA4410413c-9d72-29ab-63aa-e7ec1e129516" class="OWAAutoLink">mailto:sdy@a-n-t.ru</a>>> wrote: > > Hi all! > > I want to ask add to vote variant D. > All as was before+5% inflation and 10E per 1024 addresses IPv4 per year > (counting at 31 december). Can we try to vote it too? > > > > >> On 22 Mar 2024, at 15:27, Fergal Cunningham <fergalc@ripe.net > <<a href="mailto:fergalc@ripe.net" id="OWA08c1aedd-c757-6e9a-40a2-b8de3f1ac4e2" class="OWAAutoLink">mailto:fergalc@ripe.net</a>>> wrote: > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> This Wednesday, 20 March, we held an Open House with members > about the > >> RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025. There was a presentation from > RIPE NCC > >> staff, including our CFO and Managing Director, as well as > statements > >> from both the Executive Board Chair and Treasurer. > >> > >> There was a productive discussion about the financial landscape > we are > >> operating in and thoughts about how best to fund the RIPE NCC. The > >> Executive Board will meet on Monday and discuss what we heard > this week, > >> and they will decide on a draft charging proposal to put forward > to the > >> members in April. > >> > >> The session recording and the slides from the presentation are > available > >> at: > >> > <a href="https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-2025/" id="OWA3b116cac-c86e-d619-2208-bc66991b40cb" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-2025/</a> > >> > >> At the bottom of this mail you can find the timestamps for the > sections > >> of the presentation and Q&A. > >> > >> We greatly appreciate the input we received from members this > week and > >> the constructive nature of the discussions. We encourage you all to > >> continue to discuss the charging scheme on this list. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Fergal Cunningham > >> Head of Membership Engagement > >> RIPE NCC > >> > >> Open House Timestamps > >> > >> 01:30 Welcome and Agenda, Fergal Cunningham > >> 04:30 Development and History of the Charging Scheme, Fergal > Cunningham > >> 12:45 Consolidation and Inflation, Simon Jan Haytink > >> 19:10 The Work We Need to Fund, Simon Jan Haytink > >> 22:30 Summary and Key Questions, Hans Petter Holen > >> 27:20 Statement from Executive Board Chair, Ondřej Filip > >> 30:30 Statement from Executive Board Treasurer, Raymond Jetten > >> 32:45 Q&A with RIPE NCC Members > > > > Dear Fergal, > > > > What is the formal process of deciding what options the AGM get > to vote > > at, during the upcoming AGM? > > > > > > I would like to suggest a Consumer Price Index based re-indexing > of the > > costs, using standard European CPI numbers from Eurostat. We all > have to > > deal with increases in costs due to inflation, and it’s fair that > RIPE > > does not have to fight inflation alone. Yearly inflation as > released in > > March 2024 was at 2.4% — > > > <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-euro-indicators/w/2-03042024-ap" id="OWA02fc8b7e-a075-943c-f367-71621133fedb" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-euro-indicators/w/2-03042024-ap</a> > > > > Best regards, > > Martin_______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss@ripe.net <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" id="OWA426e3546-063d-8d2a-c320-ab2e4bc42e79" class="OWAAutoLink">mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net</a>> > > <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" id="OWA0f7081e2-e69a-511b-2dd8-72b1a190bf6b" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> > > Unsubscribe: > > <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/sdy%40a-n-t.ru" id="OWAd847e70e-8b49-8608-963f-134d9ed84cff" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/sdy%40a-n-t.ru</a> > > > > > ----------------------------- > С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий > ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" > +7(498)785-8-000 раб. > +7(495)940-92-11 доп. > +7(925)518-10-69 сот. > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss@ripe.net > <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" id="OWA87c3b62a-500b-a78a-6296-4cdc9ecddd39" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> > Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40roskomnadzor.io" id="OWA662e73e0-bd66-24ef-80d2-5b3be0d85699" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40roskomnadzor.io</a> > _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" id="OWA70d88baf-630b-b531-2e04-4911de2f0b91" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/blake66%40live.co.uk" id="OWA01a56d88-b056-4f9a-8355-79991dd70ec0" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/blake66%40live.co.uk</a></div> </body> </html>