<div dir="ltr">Hi Silviu,<div> </div><div>You have misunderstood how IRV/STV works.</div><div>If the majority are against charging scheme A, but are otherwise split across the other charging schemes IRV will ensure that scheme A does not win.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Q <div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><table style="border-radius:0.5rem;background-color:#ebf8ff;padding:15px"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="middle" style="vertical-align:middle;padding-right:15px;width:96px"> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a/AGNmyxbpJnlf2vclhNhOy6wcU6-VdyRT0K8tmuns2tOsJpk=s100" style="border-radius:50%;height:96px;width:96px" width="96" height="96"> </td> <td style="padding-right:15px"> <h5 style="color:#2a4365;font-size:1.25rem;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0.25rem">Q</h5> <h6 style="color:#6c757d;font-size:1rem;margin-bottom:0.5rem;margin-top:0">Director</h6> +44 33 33 408690 </td> <td style="border-left:1px solid #cbd5e0;padding-left:15px"> <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/bnS3POma' target="_blank"><img src="https://as207960.net/assets/img/logo2.png" style="height:96px;width:96px" width="96" height="96"></a> <img src="https://images.credly.com/images/9f87f9ae-1875-4009-a8e6-ffe4aefea52d/image.png" style="height:96px" width="96"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <hr style="height:1px;background-color:#cbd5e0;margin-top:1rem;margin-bottom:1rem;border:0"> Any statements contained in this email are personal to the author and are not necessarily the statements of the company unless specifically stated. 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Glauca Digital and the Glauca logo are registered trademarks in the UK, under № UK00003718474 and № UK00003718468, respectively. </div></div> </div></div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 11:25, Skyline Telecom <<a href="mailto:Skylinetelecom@outlook.com">Skylinetelecom@outlook.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg4887992822102950655"> <div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"> <div class="m_-2032537338429917692WordSection1"> The voting procedure is “instant run-off” which clearly benefits what RIPE wants – Charging scheme A. The other 3 options will cancel themselves out, none of them having any chance to gain close to 50% and with the redistribution, the most voted option has a clear advantage from the start. RIPE has on their website a nice video that shows exactly how it’s done and how basically Charging scheme A will win – because they intentionally made it this way so that the other three options are basically lost in the votes - <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/v2yBaE5F' target="_blank"> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/how-to-vote</a> The only way I see in which Charging scheme A will NOT pass, is by choosing option 4 on it when voting by as many people as possible. Silviu From: members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> On Behalf Of Q Misell via members-discuss Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 15:05 To: J Pawlus <<a href="mailto:Jerzy.Pawlus@cyf-kr.edu.pl" target="_blank">Jerzy.Pawlus@cyf-kr.edu.pl</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Voting for RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 Hi, It is my understanding that the voting will take the form of STV (Single Transferable Vote), which will not cause your mentioned problem. 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AS207960 Cyfyngedig, having a registered office at 13 Pen-y-lan Terrace, Caerdydd, Cymru, CF23 9EU, trading as Glauca Digital, is a company registered in Wales under № <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/EUloSUWL' target="_blank">12417574</a>, LEI 875500FXNCJPAPF3PD10. ICO register №: <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/wyT48pOj' target="_blank">ZA782876</a>. UK VAT №: GB378323867. EU VAT №: EU372013983. Turkish VAT №: 0861333524. South Korean VAT №: 522-80-03080. Glauca Digital and the Glauca logo are registered trademarks in the UK, under № UK00003718474 and № UK00003718468, respectively. On Tue, 23 May 2023 at 13:06, J Pawlus <<a href="mailto:Jerzy.Pawlus@cyf-kr.edu.pl" target="_blank">Jerzy.Pawlus@cyf-kr.edu.pl</a>> wrote: Hello, Voting for RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 seems unfair. The voting should be two stage. In the first stage there should be two options: Stage 1: Option 1: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 based on category model (Option A) Option 2: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 based on non-category model (Option B,C,D) Stage 2: This stage should be taken into account if Option 2 wins. Option B: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 Model B.” Option C: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 Model C.” Option D: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 Model D.” Otherwise all LIR interested in not winning option A should choose to vote for one of the options B,C or D (for example B) Best regards, Jerzy Pawlus ACK Cyfronet AGH _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/hwRemcjK' target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> <img border="0" width="1" height="1" style="width: 0.0083in; height: 0.0083in;" id="m_-2032537338429917692_x0000_i1029" src="https://e.as207960.net/img/w4bdyj/ypO69MNFLaES"> </div> </div> _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/yRBUxmaf' rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href='https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/K7JdkDot' rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/q%40as207960.net</a> </div></blockquote></div> <img src='https://e.as207960.net/img/w4bdyj/nXy6Oo2oKtYT' alt=''>