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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Josh,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for your reply, I agree it is
very concerning with the budget increases that RIPE continues to
give its self.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">So my only counter point to your
assertion regarding Category 5 members would be that IP addresses
themselves are not supposed to be viewed as tangible owned
objects. While I am summarizing things and may not be entirely
accurate, I'll give my thoughts. RIR's walk a tight rope on how IP
addresses are classified. In the days of old, legacy blocks, which
many of the large IPv4 holders still have, are contractually and
legally theirs just like any other real property, they own them.
Those individuals are becoming a member of a registry to have a
place to record their usage so that the rest of the world
continues to acknowledge those blocks and route that traffic.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">When things changed, legacy blocks went
away and we began to shift towards the newer structure we have
today, which is a very careful balance on how to categorize IPv4
assets. I would be concerned that if RIPE began to specifically
charge per block assigned, that they may inadvertently imply or
grant more or less ownership rights over those blocks by doing so
and could have quite a few unintended consequences.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">With that said, if RIPE would right
size their budget, and stop wasting millions of dollars, I don't
see any reason why we could not return to 2019 levels for all
members involved.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Daniel~<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/9/23 09:16, Josh Jameson wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>I agree with all your points and it does concern me. We have
more LIRs than ever and no new IPv4 to hand out, so why are RIPE
NCC's expenses getting out of control?</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be in the best interest of RIPE to not hand
out millions to other ventures if you can't even meet your own
budget.<br>
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<p>Membership for us for the past few years cost;<br>
2016: 2,100<br>
2017: 1,575<br>
2018: 1,040<br>
2019: 832<br>
2020: 1,046<br>
2021: 939<br>
2022: 786<br>
2023: 1,541<br>
2024: 2,100 (Model 1)</p>
<p>What the hell happened for us to get back to 2016 pricing!? It
seems RIPE is completely mismanaged. <br>
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<p>In 2016 there were ~13,000 LIRs.<br>
In 2023 there are ~23,000 LIRs.</p>
<p>The only thing that has changed is their growth has HALTED
because we ran out of IPv4. Why the hell is RIPE being run like
a for-profit and why do they need "investments"?</p>
<p>However, it doesn't excuse large members who will be paying a
capped 8,000/yr for literally millions of IPv4. It's still
completely unfair IMHO. I believe in equal opportunity and it's
impossible for new LIRs to get IPv4 unless you pay stupid
amounts leasing the addresses or buying them outright as a
transfer.</p>
<p>How many of you Category 5 members can honestly hold your hand
up and say you're<b> low on IPv4 space, AND can't afford to
contribute 8,000 per year? <u>That's complete nonsense.</u></b><br>
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<p>Regards,<br>
Josh Jameson<br>
Technical Director<br>
ServeByte Ltd<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/03/2023 12:13, Daniel Pearson
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Josh,</div>
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Thanks for your reply. It's not about being able to afford
or not afford this for us, it's the simple fact that I do
not believe RIPE has its members best interest at heart with
this change. <br>
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<li>RIPE does not need 190 employees.</li>
<li>RIPE does not need to 'contribute' millions to other
ventures</li>
<li>RIPE does not need to budget 579 'trips' in a single
year. <br>
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<li>RIPE does not need to budget almost 3 million for "PR".
RIPE is a monopoly, it has NO competition in the regions
it operates, why does it need PR? <br>
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<p>The fact remains that RIPE is a member governed non profit
which we all have a say in how it operates. I fully disagree
that RIPE needs to raise their fee's like this to continue
operating properly. <br>
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<p>You are correct, this is a very important VOTE and
membership should do just that, and send a clear message to
the board that we will not tolerate irrelevant waste of our
money.</p>
Daniel~</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/8/23 11:41, Josh Jameson
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<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>The new proposed pricing model 2 is fair. Hoarders of IPv4
aren't going to like the new model. I encourage every LIR to
vote on the upcoming change when requested! This is <b>THE
MOST IMPORTANT VOTE</b> in recent times and may actually
solve the IPv4 shortage in the EU.<br>
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<p>Your AS63410 currently announce 67,072 IPv4 addresses
registered to your entity PrivateSystems Networks. If you
can't afford 4,050 euros per year, it's time to recycle some
IP addresses back to RIPE.</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
Josh Jameson<br>
Technical Director<br>
ServeByte Ltd<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/03/2023 13:14, Daniel
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We have a relatively small
deployment with a single LIR, single ASN , two IPv4
allocations and one IPv6 allocation.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Model 1 has me paying 28.2%
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small provider.. that is a SIGNIFICANT price increase
and burden for what is effectively a centralized
database and verification service. <br>
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what exactly are you telling me I am paying for with
those increases? <br>
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has your budget grown to the point that you are worried
about LIR accounts merging? Why are you not exploring
other options by reducing your budget and being proper
stewards of our money. Please do not forget that RIPE,
as your own definition is a "We're a not-for-profit
membership association, a Regional Internet Registry and
the secretariat for the RIPE community supporting the
Internet through technical coordination."</span></div>
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are not for profit, and as such I would recommend
instead of increasing the LIR pricing, we acknowledge
that the world is a much tougher place and review not
only the budget expenses of the organization but
additional expenses that are not necessary. You're
offering up to €250,000 per year funding projects with
presumably our registration fee's and funds of which you
selected 8 recipients, for a presumed funding of </span><span
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of our funds..... If that program was cut or reduced,
how much would that make up for your budget short fall?</span></div>
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how about we also investigate other avenues of budget
expenditure from RIPE and determine your total projected
short fall.</span></div>
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appears to have Approx 190 Employees on payroll as well,
but yet RIPE only has 23,397 LIR's and 20,244 members.
That is a significantly high ratio of employee to
members, - 106 Members per 1 employee - why is this so
high, what audits have been conducted recently to ensure
RIPE is not suffering from technical creep and employee
bloat? <br>
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own budget for 2023 shows you've assigned less IPv4
resources in 2021 and 2022 than in prior years and have
completed significantly fewer registry checks. The only
real increase seen has been in RPKI's created.</span></div>
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also projecting more trips this year than previous as
well, a 10% increase. I'm sorry but this feels like a
huge cash grab to maintain your current life style and I
fully reject both Models. If I have more time I'll
continue to dig into your financials and we can all have
discussions on how as an organization you can be better
stewards of our Money. You have to remember, at the end
of the day your job is to manage a registry of finite
resources. Spending money on events, trade shows, travel
and excess employees is not a necessity to conduct your
original goals and objectives.</span></div>
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rest of the world, and all of the small companies who
utilize your services often times do not have the
liberty to simply talk about raising prices, especially
in many of the economically impacted areas that RIPE
services. RIPE should follow the same course of action
as many of their customers do, evaluate internal
expenditures and operate within the budget provided by
your members, not come to the membership and request we
continue to pay for donations to random projects, or a
10% increase in employee travel.</span></div>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear RIPE NCC members,
We would like to re-open the consultation we began with the membership in 2021 on the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme model, and we would like to carry out that consultation well in advance of the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) May 2023.
In 2021, we presented on this topic at the GM, and we also surveyed our members and held an open house to get direct input on the charging scheme model that members would like to see implemented by the RIPE NCC. The outcome at that stage of the consultation was that there were strong cases made for both the current one-LIR, one-fee model and for a category-based model that would charge based on the number of resources held by a member. A strong case was also made to charge for all resources allocated or assigned by the RIPE NCC, including ASNs, and to charge a fee for transfers.
The Executive Board decided to suspend the consultation in light of the war in Ukraine, but we are eager to decide on a way forward on this matter together with the membership.
One of the main reasons that we would like to advance the discussion on the charging model is that we expect many members with multiple LIR accounts who received resources in 2021 to merge these accounts in the coming year. This means that the income the RIPE NCC receives will be reduced by a significant amount and we will need to ensure that our charging model allows us to collect the revenue required to maintain our operations. We believe that a category-based model would be best suited to cover this consolidation risk. Continuing with the existing model would mean that an increase in fees for all members would be required. Our ultimate goal is to arrive at a charging scheme model that will be sustainable for many years to come, meeting the needs of the RIPE NCC’s members.
To help with discussion and to provide something tangible for members to assess, we are putting forward two draft models for members to review. These models can be summarised as:
Model 1: A “one-LIR, one-fee” model based on the current RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2023 that also charges for independent resources, ASNs, transfers and changes in business structure such as Mergers & Acquisitions.
Model 2: A category-based model that charges per member (not per LIR account) and is based on resources registered and that also charges for independent resources, ASNs, transfers and changes in business structure such as Mergers & Acquisitions.
In order to allow members to form an opinion based on their own situation, we are providing an Excel sheet that will allow you to calculate the fees you would pay under each of the draft models. It is important to be aware that at this stage, the numbers assigned for each item are indicative and would be reviewed in light of the discussion with members. We plan to review these figures following consultation with the members, and giving input on those figures would greatly help to arrive at a good model.
You can download the Excel sheet from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations/member-calculator-charging-scheme-2024.xlsx" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations/member-calculator-charging-scheme-2024.xlsx</a>
We also plan to hold another Open House meeting on the Charging Scheme in March to further discuss the charging scheme models. The Executive Board will then take the input and decide on one or more charging schemes for the membership to vote on at the GM to be held on 24 May 2023. The outcome of that vote will determine the charging scheme model to be used in the coming years.
I ask that you provide your input on this important consultation on the Membership Discussion mailing list (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>) by 26 April. Input provided up to this date will be considered by the Board when formulating the charging schemes to be proposed for the GM. Input after this date is of course also welcome although it might not be reflected in the schemes put forward to the membership at the GM.
The consultation will also be recorded and available from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations</a>
I look forward to your input.
Kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink
Finance Director
RIPE NCC
Summary
7 March: Start consultation with membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme model
21 March: Open House to discuss charging scheme with membership
24 March: Executive Board meeting to discuss input received so far
12 April: Publication of Draft RIPE NCC Charging Schemes 2024
26 April: Publication of Final RIPE NCC Charging Schemes to be voted on by members
24 May: RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2023
References
Open House and Survey Results
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-charging-scheme-principles" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-charging-scheme-principles</a>
Presentation at General Meeting
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/documentation-and-archive/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-discussion.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/documentation-and-archive/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-discussion.pdf</a>
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