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<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>The new proposed pricing model 2 is fair. Hoarders of IPv4 aren't
going to like the new model. I encourage every LIR to vote on the
upcoming change when requested! This is <b>THE MOST IMPORTANT
VOTE</b> in recent times and may actually solve the IPv4
shortage in the EU.<br/>
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<p>Your AS63410 currently announce 67,072 IPv4 addresses registered
to your entity PrivateSystems Networks. If you can't afford 4,050
euros per year, it's time to recycle some IP addresses back to
RIPE.</p>
<p>Regards,<br/>
Josh Jameson<br/>
Technical Director<br/>
ServeByte Ltd<br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/03/2023 13:14, Daniel Pearson
wrote:<br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We have a relatively small deployment
with a single LIR, single ASN , two IPv4 allocations and one
IPv6 allocation.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Model 1 has me paying 28.2% more , <span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Public
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</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family:
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!important; float: none;">For a small provider.. that is a
SIGNIFICANT price increase and burden for what is effectively
a centralized database and verification service. <br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">For what exactly are you telling me
I am paying for with those increases? <br/>
</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">Why has your budget grown to the
point that you are worried about LIR accounts merging? Why are
you not exploring other options by reducing your budget and
being proper stewards of our money. Please do not forget that
RIPE, as your own definition is a "We're a not-for-profit
membership association, a Regional Internet Registry and the
secretariat for the RIPE community supporting the Internet
through technical coordination."</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">You are not for profit, and as such
I would recommend instead of increasing the LIR pricing, we
acknowledge that the world is a much tougher place and review
not only the budget expenses of the organization but
additional expenses that are not necessary. You're offering up
to €250,000 per year funding projects with presumably our
registration fee's and funds of which you selected 8
recipients, for a presumed funding of </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Public
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!important; float: none;">€2,000,000 of our funds..... If that
program was cut or reduced, how much would that make up for
your budget short fall?</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">Otherwise how about we also
investigate other avenues of budget expenditure from RIPE and
determine your total projected short fall.</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">Ripe appears to have Approx 190
Employees on payroll as well, but yet RIPE only has 23,397
LIR's and 20,244 members. That is a significantly high ratio
of employee to members, - 106 Members per 1 employee - why is
this so high, what audits have been conducted recently to
ensure RIPE is not suffering from technical creep and employee
bloat? <br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">Your own budget for 2023 shows
you've assigned less IPv4 resources in 2021 and 2022 than in
prior years and have completed significantly fewer registry
checks. The only real increase seen has been in RPKI's
created.</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">You're also projecting more trips
this year than previous as well, a 10% increase. I'm sorry but
this feels like a huge cash grab to maintain your current life
style and I fully reject both Models. If I have more time I'll
continue to dig into your financials and we can all have
discussions on how as an organization you can be better
stewards of our Money. You have to remember, at the end of the
day your job is to manage a registry of finite resources.
Spending money on events, trade shows, travel and excess
employees is not a necessity to conduct your original goals
and objectives.</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
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!important; float: none;">The rest of the world, and all of
the small companies who utilize your services often times do
not have the liberty to simply talk about raising prices,
especially in many of the economically impacted areas that
RIPE services. RIPE should follow the same course of action as
many of their customers do, evaluate internal expenditures and
operate within the budget provided by your members, not come
to the membership and request we continue to pay for donations
to random projects, or a 10% increase in employee travel.</span></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/23 03:35, Simon Jan Haytink
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear RIPE NCC members,
We would like to re-open the consultation we began with the membership in 2021 on the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme model, and we would like to carry out that consultation well in advance of the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) May 2023.
In 2021, we presented on this topic at the GM, and we also surveyed our members and held an open house to get direct input on the charging scheme model that members would like to see implemented by the RIPE NCC. The outcome at that stage of the consultation was that there were strong cases made for both the current one-LIR, one-fee model and for a category-based model that would charge based on the number of resources held by a member. A strong case was also made to charge for all resources allocated or assigned by the RIPE NCC, including ASNs, and to charge a fee for transfers.
The Executive Board decided to suspend the consultation in light of the war in Ukraine, but we are eager to decide on a way forward on this matter together with the membership.
One of the main reasons that we would like to advance the discussion on the charging model is that we expect many members with multiple LIR accounts who received resources in 2021 to merge these accounts in the coming year. This means that the income the RIPE NCC receives will be reduced by a significant amount and we will need to ensure that our charging model allows us to collect the revenue required to maintain our operations. We believe that a category-based model would be best suited to cover this consolidation risk. Continuing with the existing model would mean that an increase in fees for all members would be required. Our ultimate goal is to arrive at a charging scheme model that will be sustainable for many years to come, meeting the needs of the RIPE NCC’s members.
To help with discussion and to provide something tangible for members to assess, we are putting forward two draft models for members to review. These models can be summarised as:
Model 1: A “one-LIR, one-fee” model based on the current RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2023 that also charges for independent resources, ASNs, transfers and changes in business structure such as Mergers & Acquisitions.
Model 2: A category-based model that charges per member (not per LIR account) and is based on resources registered and that also charges for independent resources, ASNs, transfers and changes in business structure such as Mergers & Acquisitions.
In order to allow members to form an opinion based on their own situation, we are providing an Excel sheet that will allow you to calculate the fees you would pay under each of the draft models. It is important to be aware that at this stage, the numbers assigned for each item are indicative and would be reviewed in light of the discussion with members. We plan to review these figures following consultation with the members, and giving input on those figures would greatly help to arrive at a good model.
You can download the Excel sheet from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations/member-calculator-charging-scheme-2024.xlsx" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations/member-calculator-charging-scheme-2024.xlsx</a>
We also plan to hold another Open House meeting on the Charging Scheme in March to further discuss the charging scheme models. The Executive Board will then take the input and decide on one or more charging schemes for the membership to vote on at the GM to be held on 24 May 2023. The outcome of that vote will determine the charging scheme model to be used in the coming years.
I ask that you provide your input on this important consultation on the Membership Discussion mailing list (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>) by 26 April. Input provided up to this date will be considered by the Board when formulating the charging schemes to be proposed for the GM. Input after this date is of course also welcome although it might not be reflected in the schemes put forward to the membership at the GM.
The consultation will also be recorded and available from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/member-and-community-consultations</a>
I look forward to your input.
Kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink
Finance Director
RIPE NCC
Summary
7 March: Start consultation with membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme model
21 March: Open House to discuss charging scheme with membership
24 March: Executive Board meeting to discuss input received so far
12 April: Publication of Draft RIPE NCC Charging Schemes 2024
26 April: Publication of Final RIPE NCC Charging Schemes to be voted on by members
24 May: RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2023
References
Open House and Survey Results
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-charging-scheme-principles" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-charging-scheme-principles</a>
Presentation at General Meeting
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/documentation-and-archive/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-discussion.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/documentation-and-archive/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-discussion.pdf</a>
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