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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Pricing is too tight. ASN charging seems like a punishment. Very reasonable pricing for one /24 owner and dozens of /16 members. But for the rest of the members, there is a rather unfair approach.
The current model should stay or a more equitable approach should be applied instead of this strict strict calculation. Not all RIPE members use the EURO currency. And injustice reaches even greater heights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alptekin Sünnetci<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Lewis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 7, 2023 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> members-discuss@ripe.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [members-discuss] [GM] Consultation on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi,<br>
Regarding the two proposed charging models for 2024, I honestly think that the pricing is a bit on the steep side. Model 1 certainly seems to have a sharp increase.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The 50 EUR 'per ASN' charge I imagine might be a problem for LIR members with many ASNs. I feel that it would be better to have this charge apply to 16-bit ASNs which are in limited supply.
This could be seen as a surcharge or penalty for holding onto legacy hardware and/or supporting providers that do so. As for 32-bit ASNs, they could still be charged something but I think they should be charged quite a bit less.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There's no description in the spreadsheet about the categories in model 2 (e.g. the thresholds), short of taking a look at the formulas used. It would be nice if there's further clarity around
this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As it stands, for me personally model 2 is considerably cheaper than model 1. However, if model 2 was chosen then it may need some further changes for larger LIR members based on more feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Regards,<br>
Paul Lewis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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