<div dir="ltr">Hi Tomasz,<div><br></div><div>The RIPE NCC does indeed have "force transfer" procedures in place. This is helpful for example when a previous LIR is non-responsive.</div><div><br></div><div>The NCC is not a party to the sponsorship agreement, and the collection of any debts arising from them is the LIR's responsibility. Many LIRs will only provide services after payment is received.</div><div><br></div><div>Matthias Merkel</div><img style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://homy-carrottop.herokuapp.com/+?y=49q24eh26hijgp1nc5h30dhi60qm8o9mc4s38p9k71im6oj464sm8ohhckh0====" alt=""></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 2:51 PM REG ID: pl.ip4isp <<a href="mailto:lir@skonet.pl">lir@skonet.pl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Members,<br>
<br>
Case: You receive a request to change the sponsor LIR on independent <br>
client resources that you maintain by the Sponsor LIR contract.<br>
You check, that your client has not paid for the LIR contract.<br>
<br>
You answer to RIPE NCC, that you will agree to the change, but when the <br>
client will pay off the debt. RIPE NCC replies that:<br>
a) he does not care that the client has not paid for the contract,<br>
b) forcibly performs the transfer without the consent of the current <br>
sponsor LIR.<br>
<br>
As a result, the LIR sponsor is left with a debt, the collection <br>
possibilities of which are drastically reduced.<br>
<br>
For comparison: if you do not pay your annual invoice to RIPE NCC, the <br>
LIR SSA will be terminated and the resources deregistered. With no <br>
discussion.<br>
<br>
Does RIPE NCC allow non-paying End Users to migrate with impunity <br>
between Sponsor-LIR's? In this way, the customer can freely never pay <br>
anyone for the Sponsor-LIR contract.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
-- <br>
pl.ip4isp Tomasz Śląski<br>
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