<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello Hank,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">why so many LIRs voted against the proposed charging scheme</blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's very simple. RIPE NCC *utilizes* any amount of collected money. Will it be 21 million or 40 million budget.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Example: </div><div class="">Report 2015 vs 2021</div><div class="">Budget: 21 mln vs 34 mln</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">LIR Portal 331 vs 1,838</div><div class="">RPKI none vs 963k eur (16k certificates and 27k ROA records)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">19,5 mln eur for 162 FTEs = 120k eur per year = 10k per month.</div><div class=""><br class=""><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;" class=""><tbody class=""></tbody></table></div>Most of the RIPE community is well aware of the cost of IT services, but you will not find details of IT costs. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">RIPE Database costs 658 thousand euros per year or 54 thousand per month. for 5.5 GB DB RAW format.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Can anyone explain why RPKI is so expensive? this is almost 1 million euros per year.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards, </div><div class="">Dmitry</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 May 2022, at 21:26, Hank Nussbacher <<a href="mailto:hank@interall.co.il" class="">hank@interall.co.il</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 20/05/2022 16:30, Hans Petter Holen wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Resolution 3:<br class="">"The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2023."<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2022/voting-report" class="">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2022/voting-report</a><br class=""><br class="">I would hope that with a 25% voting NO to the charging scheme, that the executive board create a discussion as to why so many LIRs voted against the proposed charging scheme and perhaps in the future break down the charging scheme vote into smaller components rather than an all or nothing vote.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Hank<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">members-discuss mailing list<br class="">members-discuss@ripe.net<br class="">https://mailman.ripe.net/<br class="">Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe%40sherbacov.com<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>