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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In what way is Russia doing a good thing ? Even if they are totally brainwashed they cannot be that stupid they believe whats sent on tv 100% and why support them in the situation going
on now? Sounds just stupid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sorry to say it Putin should have his head shot off.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mikael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="SV">Från:</span></b><span lang="SV"> members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net>
<b>För </b>Amministrazione Viama srl<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> Saturday, 5 March 2022 19:45<br>
<b>Till:</b> alex <alex@mac3.ru><br>
<b>Kopia:</b> members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net><br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alex I would instead support Russia because many or to precise better, no one understand really what happening.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I stand with Russia. It's my personal opinion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Russia.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Il 5 mar 2022 13:01, alex <<a href="mailto:alex@mac3.ru">alex@mac3.ru</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is funny to watch how some sponsoring LIR members, who receive money from Russian companies display hate against Russia. Feeling comfortable sitting on two chairs, eh?
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<p class="MsoNormal">oh those sweet dreams…….<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 12:44 +03:00 от Mikael mk. Krantz <<a href="mailto:mikael@noackgroup.se">mikael@noackgroup.se</a>>:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to see the shutdown of internet to Russia. Shutdown of all LIR's connected to Russia and I would like all the ip-resources taken back from Russia.<br>
There is no point letting them use the resources that Europe gives them. Let them fall into a isolated country without any access to resources from the rest of the world.<br>
Let them freeze let them have no money. Let them have no access or ability to travel to any nice warm country.<br>
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Just shut them down.<br>
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Regards<br>
mikael krantz<br>
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Ämne: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG<br>
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> When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I<br>
> cant't believe my eyes.<br>
><br>
> The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely<br>
> different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass.<br>
> Take off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses,<br>
> cluster bombs kill children.<br>
><br>
> And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality.<br>
><br>
> If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm<br>
> them. Go to work!<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Stary Bezpiek<br>
><br>
> Слава Україні!<br>
> русский корабль иди нахуй!<br>
><br>
> W dniu <a href="tel:05.03.2022">05.03.2022</a> o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze:<br>
> ><br>
> > The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The<br>
> > Russian army is killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE<br>
> > standup and be counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel<br>
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> > *From:*members-discuss <<a href="/compose?To=members%2ddiscuss%2dbounces@ripe.net">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> *On Behalf<br>
> > Of *C A<br>
> > *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42<br>
> > *To:* NOC <<a href="/compose?To=noc@medsigroup.ru">noc@medsigroup.ru</a>><br>
> > *Cc:* ENOG <<a href="/compose?To=enog@ripe.net">enog@ripe.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:discuss@enog.org">
discuss@enog.org</a>; Members Discuss<br>
> > <<a href="/compose?To=members%2ddiscuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>; RIPE Programme Committee <<a href="/compose?To=pc@ripe.net">pc@ripe.net</a>>;<br>
> > <a href="mailto:support@voks.ua">support@voks.ua</a>; ENOG Programme Committee <<a href="/compose?To=pc@enog.org">pc@enog.org</a>>;<br>
> > <a href="/compose?To=exec%2dboard@ripe.net">exec-board@ripe.net</a><br>
> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG<br>
> ><br>
> > Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox?<br>
> ><br>
> > The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair.<br>
> ><br>
> > If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack<br>
> > of participation.<br>
> ><br>
> > Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, <<a href="/compose?To=noc@medsigroup.ru">noc@medsigroup.ru</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Спасибо, что поправили.<br>
> > ?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > С уважением,<br>
> > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич<br>
> ><br>
> > Руководитель проектов<br>
> > Департамента развития инфраструктуры<br>
> > Блока по информационным технологиям<br>
> > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»<br>
> > тел. <a href="tel:+7%28495%29737-07-93">+7 (495) 737-07-93</a> доб. <a href="tel:11011">
11011</a><br>
> > моб.<a href="tel:+7%28915%29119-89-58">+7 (915) 119-89-58</a><br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.medsi.ru">www.medsi.ru</a> <<a href="http://www.medsi.ru">http://www.medsi.ru</a>><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: <a href="/compose?To=ripe@voks.ua">ripe@voks.ua</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ripe@voks.ua">ripe@voks.ua</a>]<br>
> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM<br>
> > To: NOC <<a href="/compose?To=noc@medsigroup.ru">noc@medsigroup.ru</a>><br>
> > Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <<a href="/compose?To=nuclearcat@nuclearcat.com">nuclearcat@nuclearcat.com</a>>;<br>
> > <a href="mailto:exec-board@ripe.net">exec-board@ripe.net</a>; ENOG <<a href="/compose?To=enog@ripe.net">enog@ripe.net</a>>;
<a href="mailto:discuss@enog.org">discuss@enog.org</a>;<br>
> > Members Discuss <<a href="/compose?To=members%2ddiscuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>; RIPE Programme<br>
> > Committee <<a href="/compose?To=pc@ripe.net">pc@ripe.net</a>>; ENOG Programme Committee <<a href="/compose?To=pc@enog.org">pc@enog.org</a>><br>
> > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG<br>
> ><br>
> > Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не<br>
> > так ли?<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > <a href="http://www.voks.ua">www.voks.ua</a> <<a href="http://www.voks.ua">http://www.voks.ua</a>><br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote<br>
> > > Добрый вечер!<br>
> > > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы!<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > С уважением,<br>
> > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Руководитель проектов<br>
> > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры<br>
> > > Блока по информационным технологиям<br>
> > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»<br>
> > > тел. <a href="tel:+7%28495%29737-07-93">+7 (495) 737-07-93</a> доб. <a href="tel:11011">
11011</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.medsi.ru">www.medsi.ru</a> <<a href="http://www.medsi.ru">http://www.medsi.ru</a>><br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: members-discuss<br>
> >[mailto:<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On<br>
> > > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko<br>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM<br>
> > > To: <a href="mailto:exec-board@ripe.net">exec-board@ripe.net</a>; ENOG <<a href="/compose?To=enog@ripe.net">enog@ripe.net</a>>;<br>
> ><a href="mailto:discuss@enog.org">discuss@enog.org</a>;<br>
> > > Members Discuss <<a href="/compose?To=members%2ddiscuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>; RIPE Programme<br>
> > Committee<br>
> > > <<a href="/compose?To=pc@ripe.net">pc@ripe.net</a>>; ENOG Programme Committee <<a href="/compose?To=pc@enog.org">pc@enog.org</a>><br>
> > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG<br>
> > ><br>
> > > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of<br>
> > ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures.<br>
> > > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community,<br>
> > reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official<br>
> > position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult<br>
> >emotional<br>
> > state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their<br>
> > ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this<br>
> >matter<br>
> > in the fall.<br>
> > > I hope by this time the events will have settled down.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Peace for all, NO TO WAR.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:<br>
> > > > Peace,<br>
> > > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will<br>
> >ever<br>
> > be, —<br>
> > > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network<br>
> > Operators<br>
> > > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that<br>
> > the RIPE<br>
> > > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the<br>
> > potential<br>
> > > > future meetings indefinitely.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the<br>
> >RIPE<br>
> > > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating<br>
> > Ukrainian,<br>
> > > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other<br>
> > > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared<br>
> > > > Internet space among the communities.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events),<br>
> >the<br>
> > > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way<br>
> >it<br>
> > could<br>
> > > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a<br>
> >programme<br>
> > for<br>
> > > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually<br>
> > recognized as<br>
> > > > ENOG at the time.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this<br>
> > > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however,<br>
> >we<br>
> > > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile<br>
> > attacks_,<br>
> > > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote<br>
> > in the PC.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I<br>
> >don't<br>
> > > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire<br>
> >RIPE<br>
> > > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further<br>
> >due<br>
> > > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the<br>
> >RIPE<br>
> > > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board<br>
> >to<br>
> > decide<br>
> > > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board<br>
> >to<br>
> > act.<br>
> > > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to<br>
> >consider any<br>
> > > > future alignments to replace ENOG.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Stay safe.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > --<br>
> > > > Töma<br>
> > > ><br>
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