<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> I also doubt that its legal, that it depends on the working-speed of RIPE itself if you need to pay a new year or not. Even if I send the closure-request on 31. December 23:45 o clock, then my request is done in the last year and every judge will agree. Its not the members problem, if RIPE takes until new year to process the request. Or is there any rule, that me as a member have to accept this process, that it depends on the working-speed and "god-will" to accept my documents, if I need to pay a additional year or not? Anyways the RIPE will send the invoices for the coming year in February or March, so there is still a lot of time for RIPE to exempt LIRs from getting invoiced where a closure process is started before new-year. So I really dont understand the reason why make it such complicated. <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Edler Geschäftsinhaber Optimate-Server EM Koddes 1 52531 Übach-Palenberg Germany Tel.: 06104 / 9722141 Fax: 06104 / 9722142 Mobil: 0177 / 83 55 499 eMail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:medler@optimate-server.de">medler@optimate-server.de</a> Internet: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.optimate-server.de">http://www.optimate-server.de</a></pre> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.11.20 um 16:09 schrieb Aleksey Bulgakov: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAOcKdztp36tQc7E-GRWdxUbU6PmKaP-xx0gBdodyF1ArWSKdzw@mail.gmail.com"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <div dir="auto"> <div>Hi</div> <div dir="auto"> </div> <div dir="auto">I also want to merge my LIRs but the hold period ends on the 28th of December. So, should I pay for 2021? May be community will cancel this restriction for transfers between accounts of one organisation because there is the wait list to receive a new allocation anyway and this restriction doesn't have sense. <div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"> <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 16 нояб. 2020 г., 17:02 Sergey Myasoedov via members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>: </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Henriette, Thank you for this timely notification. I got a question from our community. If an LIR (or multi-LIR) has received their IPv4 network in December 2018 and would like to make a transfer in 2020, they should submit a request with the MyLIR portal no earlier than 731 day after initial allocation, otherwise the system will not allow the transfer request. And this mean an invoice for 2021 will be received by the LIR and no transfer will be possible until full payment. Does this situation reflect the reality? Will the LIR carry extra expenses? -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov You wrote Monday, November 16, 2020, 1:38:00 PM: > Dear RIPE NCC members, > We would like to inform you that a request to close an LIR account > or any request that will result in the closure of an LIR account > should be submitted in full before 1 December 2020. This includes > closures that result from policy transfers and changes in business > structures. Any requests submitted after this date mean that you could be invoiced for 2021. > The request should contain all the requested information and > documents in order for the RIPE NCC to process it before the end of > the year. An overview of the required documents can be found at: > <a href="https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/required-documents-for-registry-updates" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/required-documents-for-registry-updates</a> > For requests resulting in the closure of an LIR account that are > submitted later than 1 December 2020, or requests that are > incomplete, we can not guarantee that the LIR account will be closed > before 31 December 2020. Invoices for 2021 will be issued for LIR > accounts still open on 1 January 2021. > Best Regards, > Henriette van Ingen > Registry Services Assistant Manager > RIPE NCC _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/aleksbulgakov%40gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/aleksbulgakov%40gmail.com</a> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/medler%40optimate-server.de">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/medler%40optimate-server.de</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>