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TF<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Please let me know where do you see <i>"a Purchase History Calendar with Purchases above 100k and a Capital Investment overview with investments above 25k</i>" in the PDF file in the linked that you shared? It doesn't appear there.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>It was neither in the GM in May 2020.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>And it was neither in <b><i>"</i></b><i>a couple of weeks</i>" or ever, since the email dated 14th of April 2020.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Maybe RIPE NCC representative can step in and please update regarding the status of it ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Me and many other RIPE members (that contacted me in the past) are very interested to know exactly to which entities the RIPE community money is paid.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Cynthia Revström <<a href="mailto:me@cynthia.re">me@cynthia.re</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 7, 2020 6:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Elad Cohen <<a href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io">elad@netstyle.io</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Members Discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] External thoughts on the Executive Board Election TF</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Elad, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes they are in the supporting documents section of the page for the GM in May 2020.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-743">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-743</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Cynthia<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 5:35 PM Elad Cohen <<a href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io">elad@netstyle.io</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"and how their money should be spent"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The email below is from 14th of April 2020 (bold part by me):<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Dear Elad,</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks so much for your interest in RIPE NCC’s transactions. The Finance department sees it as one of its primary roles to give the membership full insight in the financial obligations of our association. </span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Further to your questions to the Executive Board (Christian Kaufmann) please be informed that the Finance department plans to create a Purchase History Calendar with Purchases above 100k and a Capital Investment overview with investments above 25k. </span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>These overviews will be presented to the membership during the GM in May and I am confident that this will provide you with the information you are looking for. We will start with the 2019 details and we will make a comparison with 2018. Please allow us <b>a couple of weeks</b> to set up a proper format that also meets GDPR requirements. </span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Happy to answer any more questions in the meantime,</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Kind rgs,</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Gwen van Berne </span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>CFO RIPE NCC</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Anyone saw the purchase history calendar in the GM on May, or anywhere ? ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Maybe RIPE NCC representative can please step in ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="x_gmail-m_-6937419894869455486divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> on behalf of Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net" target="_blank">gert@space.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 7, 2020 5:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Harry Cross <<a href="mailto:me@harrycross.me" target="_blank">me@harrycross.me</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Members Discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] External thoughts on the Executive Board Election TF</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br><br>On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 12:35:20PM +0000, Harry Cross wrote:<br>> The NCC made a lot of noise at RIPE81 about trying to attract new members<br>> and new "blood" into the NCC and community. Locked doors and locked away<br>> decisions and suggestion making won't help with this - but this is just an<br>> opinion.<br><br>You are squarely mixing "RIPE community" and "RIPE NCC".<br><br>The RIPE NCC is a formal organization which has an executive board, <br>flowing money, and paying members. And members *vote* on what the EB<br>should do, and how their money should be spent. And yes, this excludes<br>all non-members from the final decision.<br><br>The RIPE *community* is "all of us", and this is the primary focus of<br>the RIPE meeting (of which the RIPE *member* AGM on wednesday evening is <br>not a part, it just happens to happen in the same week to reduce <br>travelling).<br><br>RIPE is open, and the RIPE WGs solicit "fresh blood" to bring new<br>impulses to the community.<br><br>The RIPE NCC is not open in the sense of "anyone can come and influence<br>RIPE NCC business".<br><br>Gert Doering<br> -- NetMaster<br>-- <br>have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?<br><br>SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer<br>Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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