<html><head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=gb2312"> </head><body><div style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" dir="auto"> How about rather than discontinuing it you look to improve it. Ask the membership why it's not effective and what could be improved. </div> <div style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" dir="auto"> <br> </div> <div style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" dir="auto"> Simon</div> <br><table class="ImprintUniqueIDTable" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: #222222">Simon Green</span><br><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; COLOR: #222222">CTO</span><br><br></td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; COLOR: #222222">M 07818 418 819<br>T 01252 560 565</span><br><a href="https://www.wirehive.com/" style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; color: #FF6A13" target="_blank">WIREHIVE.COM</a><br><br></td></tr> <tr> <td style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px"><a href="https://www.wirehive.com" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="https://wirehive.com/email/wirehive-email-signature-logo.png"></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/wirehive" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="https://www.wirehive.com/email/75d3efe7135c412f882c906e422eb534.png" width="27" height="27"></a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Wirehive" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="https://www.wirehive.com/email/77b84e19b99c47c2aee1cc69e9e7aac6.png" width="27" height="27"></a> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/wirehive" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="https://www.wirehive.com/email/840f05a277154e369a05c29c188825b2.png" width="27" height="27"></a></td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="ImprintUniqueIDTable" style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; WIDTH: 485px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #8d8d8d">Wirehive Ltd is registered in England with company number 05451011 and VAT number 850236839. The company's registered office is Wirehive, Chester House, Farnborough Aerospace Center, Farnborough, GU14 6TQ. <a href="https://wirehive.com/email-disclaimer" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; color: #8d8d8d" target="_blank">https://wirehive.com/email-disclaimer</a></td></tr></tbody></table><br> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Svilen Maximov <maximov@networx.bg><br> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:38:54 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Nuno Vieira <nuno@hashpower.pt>; members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Decommissioning the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <div dir="auto"> <div dir="auto">Hello,</div> <div dir="auto">Is discontinuing the only option? </div> <div dir="auto">Is the service consuming much resources? </div> <div dir="auto">I personally haven't used it yet, but I believe it is a good instrument to have. </div> <div id="x_aqm-signature" dir="auto" style="color:black"> <div id="x_aqm-message-outer" dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:medium; padding:0px 16px!important"> <div id="x_aqm-message-wrapper" style="zoom:1; margin-bottom:48px!important"> <div lang="EN-GB" class="x_aqm-original-body" style=""> <div class="x_WordSection1" style=""> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <b style=""><span lang="BG" style=""><br> </span></b></p> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <b style=""><span lang="BG" style="">Поздрави,</span></b></p> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <b style=""><span lang="BG" style="">инж.Свилен Максимов,</span></b></p> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <span style=""><img width="223" height="70" id="x_Picture_x0020_1" alt="networxbg" style=""></span></p> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <span style=""><img width="16" height="17" id="x_Picture_x0020_2" alt="fb" style=""></span><span style="font-size:10pt"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NetworxBG/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114)"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://www.facebook.com/NetworxBG/</span></a></span></p> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <span style="font-size:10pt"><img border="0" width="19" height="19" id="x_Picture_x0020_3" alt="vb" style=""><a href="https://chats.viber.com/networx/bg" style="color:rgb(149,79,114)"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://chats.viber.com/networx/bg</span></a></span></p> <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div id="x_aqm-original" style="color:black"> <div class="x_aqm-original-body"> <div style="color:black"> <p style="color:black; font-size:10pt; font-family:sans-serif; margin:8pt 0">On June 20, 2020 12:08:19 AM Nuno Vieira via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net> wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.75ex; border-left:1px solid #808080; padding-left:0.75ex"> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:#000000"> <div>+1<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Nuno Vieira<br> <br> # hashpower - datacenter and it services<br> Leiria | Portugal<br> <br> p: +351308814400<br> e: nuno@hashpower.pt<br> w: https://hashpower.pt<br> <br> <br> </div> <div><br> </div> <hr id="x_zwchr"> <div> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF; margin-left:5px; padding-left:5px; color:#000; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <b>From: </b>"José Manuel Giner" <jm@ginernet.com><br> <b>To: </b>members-discuss@ripe.net<br> <b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 17 June, 2020 16:19:53<br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [members-discuss] Decommissioning the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service<br> </blockquote> </div> <div> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF; margin-left:5px; padding-left:5px; color:#000; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> Hello, I am interested in keeping that list, we are part of the list to <br> buy IPs and we like to receive offers from other LIRs.<br> <br> Thanks.<br> <br> <br> On 10/06/2020 12:59, Felipe Victolla Silveira wrote:<br> > Dear members,<br> > <br> > In my update at RIPE 80[1], I mentioned that we would like to <br> > decommission the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service unless there there were <br> > strong objections. So far, we have heard no requests to keep the service.<br> > <br> > In case anyone is unfamiliar with this, the listing service allows <br> > members to offer/request IPv4 prefixes for transfer:<br> > https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/listing<br> > <br> > While there are currently 681,000 IPv4 addresses "offered" on the <br> > listing service, when we attempted to match LIRs that had used the <br> > service with those that went on to make a transfer, we couldn't find <br> > much of a correlation. Of the 1,969 LIRs that transferred resources in <br> > our service region last year, only 76 had posted on the listing service <br> > and it's not clear whether the service actually connected the <br> > offering/receiving parties for these cases.<br> > <br> > As the listing service is reaching the end of its lifespan, a full <br> > reimplementation would be needed to continue supporting it. Given that <br> > the listing service does not appear to be adding much in terms of value, <br> > spending development time on this does seem like a good use of members' <br> > funds.<br> > <br> > We are therefore planning to discontinue the IPv4 Transfer Listing <br> > Service on 22 June. If you have strong objections to this, please let us <br> > know or share feedback on members-discuss.<br> > <br> > Regards<br> > <br> > Felipe Victolla Silveira<br> > Chief Operations Officer<br> > RIPE NCC<br> > <br> > [1] RIPE NCC Operational Update:<br> > https://ripe80.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/28-Operational-Update-RIPE-80-to-upload.pdf <br> > <br> <br> -- <br> José Manuel Giner<br> https://ginernet.com<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> members-discuss mailing list<br> members-discuss@ripe.net<br> https://mailman.ripe.net/<br> Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/nuno%40hashpower.pt<br> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div>_______________________________________________</div> <div>members-discuss mailing list</div> <div><a class="x_aqm-autolink x_aqm-autowrap" href="mailto:members-discuss%40ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a></div> <div><a class="x_aqm-autolink x_aqm-autowrap" href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a></div> <div>Unsubscribe: <a class="x_aqm-autolink x_aqm-autowrap" href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/maximov%40networx-bg.com"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/maximov%40networx-bg.com</a></div> <div><br> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> </div> </div> </body></html>