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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Everyone,</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm usualy part of the silent
        majority, but i want to react.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">At least, they wait the vote result
      before doing anything, so i don't think they try to influence
      anything by posting that there. As an example, i discover this
      today after the result (congrats to all 3 members elected).</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I've ear multiple things about you
      Elad, but not good ones. As an example, your mass spam is
      something i never see from a people who want to go to the board. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">How you want to manage the NCC if you
      are not capable to respect basic database usage rules and RGPD.
      How can you be neutral like IANA require from every RIR to exists
      ?</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ripe is there to create rules with
      community and strongly apply it (and i think, every LIR know what
      i mean ;) )<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Also, IPv4+, what you put in your mail
      (except the technical madness to deploy a such solution), let's me
      think you don't understand how NCC and mainly the internet work in
      terms of democracy (working group, rfc and all).</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">To push something like that, you have
      to push it worldwide, not only in EU.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">So, no the world is not against you,
      but i don't know what you to try, maybe a buzz, but what i see
      from my point of view is a bad buzz and people vote against you
      for that.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">If i don't saw at least 50 time, "don't
      vote elan", i don't saw it during those 3 days.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">So, from my humble advice, analyse what
      append there, try to understand what fail and go forward.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best Regards</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cedric<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 13-05-20 à 15:47, Elad Cohen a
      écrit :<br>
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        My response below to "The Ronald Show" in Nanog, if you will
        post his intentional lies in member-dicuss then you show also
        post my reply below to his lies.</div>
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        Elad<br>
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            face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Elad
            Cohen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"><elad@netstyle.io></a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:46 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Ronald F. Guilmette
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com"><rfg@tristatelogic.com></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"><nanog@nanog.org></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election</font>
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            <span>Hello Everyone,<br>
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            </div>
            <div>My apology for not providing an official response to
              the first "The Ronald Show" that took place here many
              months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia
              and it took me months to get back to myself.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>What was done towards me and what being done to me by
              Ronald is an intentional personal attack against me and I
              will explain.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I didn't agree to provide private business documents to
              the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project"
              that they tried to extort from me - then I found out who
              are the real people behind the illegal anonymous
              organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they
              started to attack me (including here on Nanog, with false
              information, when I was out of hospital and wasn't in the
              condition to respond to them).<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>"The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous
              organization according to their own words in their own
              following presentation:<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation"
                id="LPNoLP610976" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation</a></div>
            <br>
            <div>They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis -
              massive amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from
              their contacts in many internet companies and internet
              organizations - and then they share it in illegal way
              (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this
              is the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing
              nothing regarding the illegal anonymous organization "The
              Spamhaus Project".<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal
              anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><span>----<br>
              </span>
              <div><i>and that said legal counsel has then<br>
                </i></div>
              <div><i>proceeded to threaten various officials of the
                  City of Cape Town,<br>
                </i></div>
              <div><i>South Africa with possible legal action if they do
                  not relinquish<br>
                </i></div>
              <div><i>to him their rights in and title to the
                  165.25.0.0/16 block</i></div>
              <div>----<br>
              </div>
              <span>This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I
                will not share their internal correspondences. Anyone
                interested to know more information can email me
                directly.</span></div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>----<br>
            </div>
            <div><i>"I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape
                Town ever sell, trade, or barter away their rights to
                this valuable IPv4 block"</i><br>
            </div>
            <div>----<br>
            </div>
            <div>Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all
              Dutch people are criminals and all Colombian network
              oeprators are criminals and all Chicago citizens are
              criminals according to his statements in the following
              links:<br>
            </div>
            <div><a href="https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX" id="LPlnk944599"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX</a></div>
            <div><a href="https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ" id="LPNoLP713856"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ</a></div>
            <div><a href="https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz" id="LPlnk807966"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz</a></div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person
              here on Nanog in the following two links, by people which
              are not related to me:<br>
            </div>
            <div><a href="https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk" id="LPlnk211741"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk</a></div>
            <div><a href="https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz" id="LPlnk979259"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz</a></div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald
              called me in two antisemitic names that are being used to
              relate to Jews in Shakespeare literature (just like Ronald
              is relating to Shakespeare in
              <a href="https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX" id="LPNoLP795583"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX</a> ) -
              as part of his defamation campaign towards me - none of
              you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog
              subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a
              single proof against me) as was written here by them (with
              a popcorn).<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported
              and pumped Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the
              anonymous twitter account:
              <a href="https://twitter.com/underthebreach"
                id="LPlnk254186" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/underthebreach</a>
              , that person according to his own words in his own
              criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber
              influence operations (meaning to influence people without
              a single proof) - that person is also an employee of the
              Israeli-based company GeoEdge and they are a direct
              competitor of a company that used the netblocks that
              Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked
              another Israeli-based company called Divineworks (here in
              Nanog) and they are also a direct competitor of the
              Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here is a
              cyber influence operation without a single proof because
              of a business competition.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>That criminal <a
                href="https://twitter.com/underthebreach"
                id="LPNoLP167679" moz-do-not-send="true">
                https://twitter.com/underthebreach</a> which is a member
              of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination -
              is not the only person which is abusing the power of "The
              Spamhaus Project" for commericial goals, that are many
              many more people and companies behind the illegal
              anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are
              making profit from it, for example:<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>- Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet
              Hanna" of "The Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus
              Project" is attacking the competitors of Open-Xchange.<br>
            </div>
            <div>- Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a
              Spamhaus listing removal service
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wordtothewise.com">https://wordtothewise.com</a>)<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project":<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>"Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus
              of W3AAWG) and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge
              university (both known as "Mike Anderson" of "The Spamhaus
              Project")<br>
            </div>
            <div>"Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.invaluement.com/">https://www.invaluement.com/</a>)<br>
            </div>
            <div>"Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/">https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/</a>)<br>
            </div>
            <div>"Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/">https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/</a>)<br>
            </div>
            <div>"Vincent Hanna" -  Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/</a>)<br>
            </div>
            <div>"Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/</a>)<br>
            </div>
            <div>Among others.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization
              "The Spamhaus Project":<br>
            </div>
            <div>ThreatSTOP<br>
            </div>
            <div>FarSight Security<br>
            </div>
            <div>Fastly<br>
            </div>
            <div>Dyn<br>
            </div>
            <div>Cymru<br>
            </div>
            <div>Abusix<br>
            </div>
            <div>Among others.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there
              is clearly written:</div>
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            </div>
            <div>"It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of
              any illegal activity in this report."<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>But it doesn't change the fact that the article was
              clearly written only for Ronald to be able to post it and
              to proceed with the illegal "cyber influence operation" to
              attack me without a single proof. The article was written
              by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob and
              then Ronald made this post according to the instruction
              from "The Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal
              "cyber influence operation" without a single proof.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the
              illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" -
              Ronald Guilmette is just their front clown - expect many
              of them to jump now and to defame me here without a single
              proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous
              organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can
              ask them a simple single question - "show us a single
              proof" - and - "if you cannot show us a single proof then
              please stop spamming the mailing list".<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and
              writing:<br>
            </div>
            <div>"less than honorable intent reach for power"<br>
            </div>
            <div>"to persons with an interest only in what is best for
              them personally, to the exclusion of all else"<br>
            </div>
            <div>"Democracy dies in darkness."<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>When in reality I invented three new pantets for the
              best of the whole Internet community and I will work to
              implement them if I will be elected:<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem
              and will add more 4,294,967,296‬ IPv4 addresses: (can be
              implemented with software updates and not all internet
              hosts in the world will have to be updated - home routers
              and home modems which are the vast majority of routing
              equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and
              will support more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+
              )
              <br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.html"
                id="LPlnk678407" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.html</a></div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in
              a clean and automatic way: (and also mitigating the
              illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project")<br>
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            <div><a
href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.html"
                id="LPlnk403097" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.html</a><br>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS
              attacks and spoofed ip traffic with is a source for
              criminality:<br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.html"
                id="LPlnk758023" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.html</a><br>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep
              controlling RIPE and any other internet organizations - I
              want to liberate RIPE - I want to make sure that that
              illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing
              which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and
              connectivity) - will have no footprint in RIPE.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>My full agenda can be read here:<br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen"
                id="LPlnk925554" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen</a><br>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows
              that if I will be elected I will put an end to the illgal
              anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which is
              intimidating and harassing many organizations and many
              businesses worldwide.<br>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Kind Regards,<br>
            </div>
            <span>Elad</span><br>
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          <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
              face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
              NANOG <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org"><nanog-bounces@nanog.org></a> on behalf of Ronald
              F. Guilmette <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com"><rfg@tristatelogic.com></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"><nanog@nanog.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> RIPE NCC Executive Board election</font>
            <div> </div>
          </div>
          <div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2"><span
                style="font-size:11pt">
                <div class="PlainText">Many of you here may be
                  dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE.<br>
                  <br>
                  Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact
                  that there will<br>
                  be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a
                  day or two from<br>
                  now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats.<br>
                  <br>
                  I have it on good authority that one of the candidates
                  running for<br>
                  the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has
                  hired legal<br>
                  counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel
                  has then<br>
                  proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of
                  Cape Town,<br>
                  South Africa with possible legal action if they do not
                  relinquish<br>
                  to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16
                  block, a<br>
                  block that all historical records, including even ARIN
                  "WhoWas"<br>
                  historical records show, clearly and unambiguously,
                  has been<br>
                  legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over
                  twenty years.<br>
                  (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape
                  Town ever sell,<br>
                  trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable
                  IPv4 block,<br>
                  and that they are defending themselves, as best as
                  they can, against<br>
                  this attempt to extort them out of their rightful
                  prooperty.)<br>
                  <br>
                  Where I come from, this kind of thing is called
                  barratry, but you<br>
                  be the judge.<br>
                  <br>
                  In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to
                  let you all<br>
                  know these facts about the candidate in question, as
                  well as a<br>
                  number of additional startling facts relating to the
                  people who<br>
                  nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive
                  board seat, as<br>
                  documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan
                  Vermeulen:<br>
                  <br>
                  <a
href="https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip-address-organisation.html"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip-address-organisation.html</a><br>
                  <br>
                  I could go into more detail about many of the
                  nominators mentioned<br>
                  in the above article, but I don't want to make this
                  email too long,<br>
                  so I'll await some explict request for that additional
                  info.  For now<br>
                  it should suffice to make at least some of the basic
                  facts more widely<br>
                  available, a task which is accomplished just by
                  sharing the above link,<br>
                  IMHO.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Regards,<br>
                  rfg<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  P.S.  I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined
                  and constrained<br>
                  from posting here anything at all that might smack of
                  being either<br>
                  partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and
                  thus, I will<br>
                  refrain from doing so.  I would be remiss hoever if I
                  did not at least<br>
                  note in passing that history records that in times
                  such as these, when<br>
                  people of good character and good intent are, as they
                  rightly should be,<br>
                  focused on the health and safety of themselves, their
                  loved ones, and<br>
                  their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the
                  world is elsewhere,<br>
                  persons of less than honorable intent reach for power
                  and, with unfortunate<br>
                  regularity, obtain it.<br>
                  <br>
                  I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have
                  been saddled with<br>
                  personal or local crises during this sad time turn
                  away from those<br>
                  responsibilities to give attention to matters of
                  Internet governance,<br>
                  however urgent those may appear at the moment.  For
                  all of us, our first-<br>
                  order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and
                  collegues.  But for<br>
                  those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I
                  do ask that you<br>
                  consider carefully the newfound and critical
                  importance of this tool,<br>
                  this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all
                  around the world,<br>
                  and the self-evident risks of its governance being
                  handed over, by default<br>
                  or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what
                  is best for them<br>
                  personally, to the exclusion of all else.<br>
                  <br>
                  P.P.S.  I would be posting this info and the above
                  link also to the<br>
                  very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but
                  as I am not a<br>
                  due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do
                  so.  Separately,<br>
                  due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and
                  manifest on-list<br>
                  transgressions on that very list, that list has
                  recently been switched<br>
                  to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems,
                  even discussion of<br>
                  the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE
                  NCC Executive Board<br>
                  election are now categorized as "too controversial"
                  and thus, themselves,<br>
                  are now entirely off-limits.<br>
                  <br>
                  I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I
                  saw somewhere,<br>
                  not too long ago:<br>
                  <br>
                                   "Democracy dies in darkness."<br>
                                                    -- anon<br>
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