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    <p><tt>Hello Hans, </tt><tt><br>
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    <p><tt>Have you looked at the links alistair posted, </tt><tt><br>
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    <p><tt>let's pick this:</tt></p>
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here Elad both insults people constnatly in this thread, and showing screenshots of where he "indentified people as antisemits" - and shows as "Proof" another email, with no source, so for all we know, Elad has written himself. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz">https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz</a> <- so he produces his own "proofs"

And why do I think Elad wrote that himself? because he has been called out on his IP adress missapropriation as you can see, if you read this. And this level as shown in this imgur link is beyond waht's acceptable.





So he produces his own sources, where he does personally affect peoples to the level of calling things.




I have to disagree with you, I consider Elad as harmful and personally attacking people constantly. I do support the stance of Cynthia here and hope the RIPE community can take a stance here against the bullying of Elad. 


I've seen how things progressed here, from a ususal trolling because people did not take any of Elads proposal serious as they very - in my personal opinion - over the top. 

But it has progressed to Elad attacking people on a level that is not acceptable for this community. 

I would again like to stress that Elad wants to be elected as RIPE chair. So are we, as a community, remotely considering someone with this singificant bullying behaviour into a chair of RIPE? Someone who calls everyone that does not agree with his opinion illegal, and beeing engaged in illegal options, and he also refers to mental health of others, as seen in other 




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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/20 10:16 PM, Hans Govenius
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">This is ridiculous and out of the question.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Its completely out of order to even discuss
            such actions.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">These points which he brings to the discussion
            are atleast somewhat within the scope of matters that could
            be discussed on a Ripe members list. Its not like Elad would
            be speaking of ice bears or meatballs here. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">If someone does not like to discuss things –
            get out of the list. Its that simple.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">I don’t take any position on these spam or ipv
            matters as I don’t have sufficient technical knowledge to
            either disagree or agree with them but its great that
            someone tries to come up with something and also I usually
            prefer if people try to advance things rather than block
            them.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Now lets everyone be civil here and give
            everyone a voice.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">br. Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Lähettäjä:</b> members-discuss
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net"><members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net></a>
          <b>Puolesta </b>Cynthia Revström<br>
          <b>Lähetetty:</b> maanantai 27. huhtikuuta 2020 1.03<br>
          <b>Vastaanottaja:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>; RIPE NCC
          Support <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncc@ripe.net"><ncc@ripe.net></a><br>
          <b>Aihe:</b> [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's
          nomination and emails<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I would like to request that Elad Cohen
              be blocked from sending to the members-discuss mailing
              lists after multiple offtopic threads started by Elad and
              the personal attacks and ignoring WG chairs telling Elad
              to stop.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I would further like to point out that
              as he is a confirmed candidate for the Exec Board, one of
              his key responsibilities would be to have the "Ability to
              communicate effectively", which he has shown that he is
              not capable of.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I would personally say that elad lacks
              most of the expectations listed on <a
href="https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/ripe-ncc-executive-board-functions-and-expectations"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/ripe-ncc-executive-board-functions-and-expectations</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I would like to propose that the RIPE
              NCC ban Elad Cohen from interacting with the RIPE
              Community (via Meetings or mailing lists) due to his
              blatant disregard for the Code of Conduct and for being
              hostile towards others in the community. As the RIPE NCC
              hosts and manages these lists I think the RIPE NCC has a
              responsibility to keep the lists professional and to
              remove those who repeatedly ignore what the WG chairs are
              saying.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">- Cynthia<o:p></o:p></p>
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