<div dir="ltr">They are not available for me, could you double check your account, I also contacted RIPE two days ago but still waiting for them to answer.<div> </div></div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:57 PM Mike Simkins <<a href="mailto:mike.simkins@sungardas.com">mike.simkins@sungardas.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div lang="EN-GB"> <div class="gmail-m_-5705822780476426212WordSection1"> They are available in the member (LIR) portal <div> <div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"> From: members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> On Behalf Of Bora Ismen Sent: 26 February 2020 19:07 To: 'Together pal' <<a href="mailto:info@together-pal.com" target="_blank">info@together-pal.com</a>>; 'Dominic Schallert' <<a href="mailto:ds@schallert.com" target="_blank">ds@schallert.com</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question </div> </div> Not yet, there is 2 more business days in February, and we have not received any invoices yet. From: members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> On Behalf Of Together pal Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 6:41 PM To: Dominic Schallert <<a href="mailto:ds@schallert.com" target="_blank">ds@schallert.com</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question <div> <div> Did anyone got the invoice for 2020 fees?? </div> <div> </div> <div> Thanks </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:39 PM Dominic Schallert <<a href="mailto:ds@schallert.com" target="_blank">ds@schallert.com</a>> wrote: </div> <blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"> <div> <div> I can‘t understand why the surplus redistribution in 2019 had been EUR 567,52 and in 2020 it’s only EUR 353,82 per LIR. This does not match with the actual new-LIR development figures in 2019 according to <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__labs.ripe.net_statistics_number-2Dof-2Dlirs&d=DwMFaQ&c=gYbc-GKV5BQa9zrq1GFCVg&r=S1PZn0PYDDYtiCW2fix2C1ZHo8KzLAckyehxqI4wl20&m=aa4caioPw4-cAEiv-4z0w1putGQ2GlC6jT7VBV7s3ic&s=BNpi6cGdcPmp9wP7gk0eut42luQ16YBpZ-5iUyKyr38&e=" target="_blank">https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs</a> </div> <div> </div> <div> Regards </div> <div> </div> <div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> Am 26.02.2020 um 15:26 schrieb Radu-Adrian Feurdean <<a href="mailto:ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net" target="_blank">ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net</a>>: </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, at 21:41, Arash Naderpour wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> It doesn't looks fair to me, but you need to see enough support from </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> the memebers to change it, NCC also like easy money, same as many of </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> others. </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> ...and as most of its members who do enjoy the redistribution (when there is one) the next year. </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> Back to the initial question, the membership fee *IS* pro-rated when you *open* the LIR, sometimes to the advantage of the new member (not including an extra quarter for up to 2 or 3 weeks only). </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"> If you perform a merger via "M&A Process", the rules are pretty clear that both LIRs involved need to be with membership fees paid. 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