<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1>Hi;<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>We also vote for B, as it is important to have the reputable brokers be distinguished, which will be an incentive for other brokers to go by book and follow the terms and conditions of their agreement with RIPE NCC.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><img width=104 height=81 style='width:1.0833in;height:.8437in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D5B673.B79EA760" alt="Inana Group Logo"><o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Samer Mansour<o:p></o:p>VP Sales and Marketing<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>INANA GROUP <o:p></o:p>Oman<o:p></o:p>Tel: +968-2461-7098<o:p></o:p>M: +968-911-26117<o:p></o:p>Muscat - Sultanate of Oman<o:p></o:p><a href="http://www.inana-group.com/">www.inana-group.com</a><o:p></o:p><a href="mailto:Info@inana-group.com">Info@inana-group.com</a><o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Lu Heng Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 1:43 PM To: Schnabeltier <ripe-member-discuss@cidr.eu> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div><div>Hi<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div>I would suggest we go for option C, it’s really not ripe’s job to provide nor endorse any brokers.<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p><div><div>Schnabeltier <<a href="mailto:ripe-member-discuss@cidr.eu">ripe-member-discuss@cidr.eu</a>>于2019年12月19日 周四17:37写道：<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p> I think we have three options. I would vote for option B:<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>A) Keeping the list.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>B) We would consider it as important to have a list of reliable brokers. The RIPE NCC would only publish information of brokers which are verified. If the majority would vote for this option, we have to find a solution how to verify the integrity of brokers.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>C) We do not consider a list of reliable brokers as important. While RIPE NCC cannot or does not want to validate the integrity of brokers at this moment, the list should be removed.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></div>From: Christian Kaufmann <<a href="http://email/new/1/exec-board%40ripe.net" target="_blank">exec-board@ripe.net</a>> Sent: Thursday, 19. Dec 2019 – 10:17 CET +0100 To: <a href="http://email/new/1/members-discuss%40ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Subject: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List<o:p></o:p><div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'>Dear RIPE NCC members,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The Executive Board has been following this discussion and we can see <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>general agreement for a change in the way brokers are listed on the RIPE <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NCC's website.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The question is whether the RIPE NCC should remove the list entirely, or <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>otherwise take steps to improve its approach. There are pros and cons <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>with both options.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Removing the list is straightforward and would spare the RIPE NCC a few <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>headaches. However, it is worth considering whether the current model <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>provides some incentive for brokers to play by the rules and what might <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>happen if this incentive is gone.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>on this list.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Christian Kaufmann<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>members-discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-member-discuss%40cidr.eu" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-member-discuss%40cidr.eu</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div>_______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" target="_blank">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/tech%40outsideheaven.com" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/tech%40outsideheaven.com</a><o:p></o:p></blockquote></div></div>-- <o:p></o:p><div>This transmission is intended solely for the addressee(s) shown above. 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