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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schnabeltier<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 de dezembro de 2019 10:38<br>
<b>To:</b> members-discuss@ripe.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I think we have three options. I would vote for option B:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">A) Keeping the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">B) We would consider it as important to have a list of reliable brokers. The RIPE NCC would only publish information of brokers which are verified. If the majority
would vote for this option, we have to find a solution how to verify the integrity of brokers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">C) We do not consider a list of reliable brokers as important. While RIPE NCC cannot or does not want to validate the integrity of brokers at this moment, the list
should be removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Christian Kaufmann <<a href="/email/new/1/exec-board%40ripe.net">exec-board@ripe.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19. Dec 2019 – 10:17 CET +0100<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="/email/new/1/members-discuss%40ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:#173860">Dear RIPE NCC members,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">The Executive Board has been following this discussion and we can see <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">general agreement for a change in the way brokers are listed on the RIPE <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">NCC's website.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">The question is whether the RIPE NCC should remove the list entirely, or <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">otherwise take steps to improve its approach. There are pros and cons <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">with both options.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">Removing the list is straightforward and would spare the RIPE NCC a few <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">headaches. However, it is worth considering whether the current model <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">provides some incentive for brokers to play by the rules and what might <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">happen if this incentive is gone.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">on this list.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">Christian Kaufmann<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#173860">members-discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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