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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As a large operator (former telco) who has been in the internet business since the beginning of it and with millions of customers, either option A or B will not solve the shortage of IPv4 blocks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A large operator also needs “free space” to make huge changes to networks, build new ones in parallel and upgrade to new techniques. So I do not believe that charging more will return “huge” amounts of IPv4, even if they
would be “free” at the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Ripe being a non-profit organization will because of this either have to lower the annual fee, or return large parts of the extra income this option B might bring in, or will have to pay large amounts of profit tax to
the Dutch tax system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The executive board last year suggested a more simple billing system, and this was implemented in a way that membership fees will be billed only yearly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This option B will again make the billing again more complicated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I helped my customer set up a lir, and had a look in the portal’s billing section. After the initial setup fee and after the refund of last year the annual fee was just a little over 800 euros. I can tell ours is a lot
higher since we “sponsor” PI customers etc etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What problem are we trying to solve with option B ?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-US">billing will get more complicated, this is opposite of what was intended.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-US">option B does not satisfy everyone, neither does option A<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-US">v4 will not become more available.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It may not surprise you that of these 2 options to choose from the one equal to all is the one I support (Option A).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">(And this is of course with my private hat on..)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Rgds,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Ray<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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