<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yes,<div><br></div><div>It is only one fair policy, pay for amount of IPv4.. and one /22 should be in basic. Then, I guess there will be strong will to transfer to IPv6</div><div><br></div><div>There is a lot of small member, so if we make an force together, we can change these rules!</div><div><br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Odesláno z iPhonu</div><div dir="ltr"><br>17. 4. 2019 v 19:28, Patrick Velder <<a href="mailto:lists@velder.li">lists@velder.li</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
  
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    <p>+1.<br>
      There should be a fee of 50€ per 1024 addresses or something like
      this, not per resource. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17.04.19 19:04, Alexandru Doszlop
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Hello, </div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">I just read the email regarding the charging
          scheme for 2020 option B. </div>
        <div dir="auto">Are you kidding me? </div>
        <div dir="auto">Are you really naming it "volume based billing"?</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">Let's say one isp has only one /12 ipv4 PA. It
          will pay 1150 euro + 50 euro. </div>
        <div dir="auto">The other LIR that wants to help small companies
          and has 50 /24 assignments, will pay 1150 + 50*50=3650 euro. </div>
        <div dir="auto">All new lirs that receive smaller than /22
          assignments will pay more than than the big isp. </div>
        <div dir="auto">Where is the volume here? </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Unbelievable... </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Regards, </div>
        <div dir="auto">Alex</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto">---------- Forwarded
            message ----------<br>
            From: Gwen van Berne <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gvanberne@ripe.net"><gvanberne@ripe.net></a><br>
            Date: Apr 17, 2019 18:08<br>
            Subject: [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 -
            Two Options to Vote On<br>
            To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncc-announce@ripe.net">ncc-announce@ripe.net</a><br>
            Cc: <br>
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              <p dir="ltr">Dear colleagues,
                <br>
                <br>
                Members will vote on the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020
                at the General
                <br>
                Meeting from 22-24 May. In response to requests from
                members, the
                <br>
                Executive Board is proposing two charging scheme options
                that the
                <br>
                members can choose from at the GM.
                <br>
                <br>
                An overview of the two options is also available that
                explains the two
                <br>
                models in more detail. The overview and the two charging
                schemes are
                <br>
                available at:
                <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2019/supporting-documents">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2019/supporting-documents</a>
                <br>
                <br>
                In short, the options that members will choose between
                are:
                <br>
                <br>
                Option A: The RIPE NCC will maintain the existing
                charging scheme,
                <br>
                according to which members pay an annual fee of EUR
                1,400 plus an extra
                <br>
                EUR 50 per independent number resource assignment.
                <br>
                <br>
                Option B: The RIPE NCC will switch to a new
                volume-based, per
                <br>
                registration charging scheme. This would involve
                lowering the annual fee
                <br>
                to EUR 1,150  whilst broadening the applicability of the
                separate EUR 50
                <br>
                charge to all number registrations held by the member.
                See the full list
                <br>
                of registrations that would be charged in the document.
                <br>
                <br>
                The existing sign-up fee of EUR 2,000 will apply to both
                options.
                <br>
                <br>
                We encourage members to discuss the options on the
                Member Discuss
                <br>
                mailing list at <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"><members-discuss@ripe.net></a>. The
                Executive Board and the
                <br>
                RIPE NCC Management will follow discussions closely
                ahead of the GM.
                <br>
                <br>
                If you have not yet registered for the GM, we strongly
                encourage you to
                <br>
                do so and make sure you have your say on which of two
                distinct charging
                <br>
                scheme options should be adopted in May. Full
                participation and voting
                <br>
                options are available for all members. You can register
                now via the LIR
                <br>
                Portal at:
                <br>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/s/gm-registration-may-2019">https://www.ripe.net/s/gm-registration-may-2019</a>
                <br>
                <br>
                All details on the GM, including the draft agenda, are
                available from:
                <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2019/">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2019/</a>
                <br>
                <br>
                Kind regards,
                <br>
                <br>
                Gwen van Berne
                <br>
                Chief Financial Officer
                <br>
                RIPE NCC
                <br>
                <br>
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