<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-GB" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jørgen,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">What’s the point of a BCOP if we shouldn’t pay much attention to it? Is the BCOP wrong, or is the allocation policy too rigid?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Sadly, the newer generation of stateless IPv6 transition technologies, such as MAP and lw4over6 etc., trade flow tracking complexity for more rigid, complex, and pre-planned addressing plans.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">My point (and I believe Gert’s also) is that larger IPv6 allocations shouldn’t be difficult when the RIPE NCC is provided with justification. The debate I’ve hijacked this thread for, is what constitutes sufficient justification? <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">-Richard<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Jørgen Hovland <jorgen@ssc.net><br> <b>Date: </b>Monday, 21 January 2019 at 17:10<br> <b>Cc: </b>"members-discuss@ripe.net" <members-discuss@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [members-discuss] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Charging Scheme<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">I don't think the point of IPv6 is to spend, spend, spend either.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">A limited resource will always run out. If you think you are going to need a quadruple billion IP-addresses on every LAN, then sure go a head and spend.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">I would however not pay much attention to a BCOP that recommends /48 for businesses, /56 for residential, /54 for single moms and /52 for Fortnite players. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">The moment you start hardcoding prefixlengths into your design, or any number for that matters, you are certainly not going to have a future proof network...<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal">Jørgen<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> Information in this email including any attachments may be privileged, confidential and is intended exclusively for the addressee. The views expressed may not be official policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your system. You should not reproduce, distribute, store, retransmit, use or disclose its contents to anyone. Please note we reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communication through our internal and external networks. SKY and the SKY marks are trademarks of Sky Limited and Sky International AG and are used under licence. <br> <br> Sky UK Limited (Registration No. 2906991), Sky-In-Home Service Limited (Registration No. 2067075), Sky Subscribers Services Limited (Registration No. 2340150) and Sky CP Limited (Registration No. 9513259) are direct or indirect subsidiaries of Sky Limited (Registration No. 2247735). All of the companies mentioned in this paragraph are incorporated in England and Wales and share the same registered office at Grant Way, Isleworth, Middlesex TW7 5QD </body> </html>