<div dir="auto">Hi.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Every where we can hear that the RIPE NCC is non-commercial organization, but let's look deeper: all members sign the Standard Service Agreement that means that the RIPE NCC provides some services. As you know, the company, who provides services, is commercial if it isn't a Charity organization only.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">сб, 19 янв. 2019 г., 3:35 Terrence Koeman <a href="mailto:terrence@darkness-reigns.com">terrence@darkness-reigns.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> The current "you have to pay for a couple more years" wording needs<br>
> looking at - a simple "minimum membership period is 3 years" would I<br>
> expect fix the disputable/legal ramifications, as the current setup<br>
> isn't allowed in the UK for example<br>
> (you cannot charge for a service that you do not, will not or cannot<br>
> supply - so if the member no longer exists, you cannot supply them<br>
> membership, so you cannot charge)<br>
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This is not an issue because it is allowed in the UK. Membership is not a service, and it is also not "supplied" to anyone. Membership entitles the member to voting rights and the possibility to request resources according to policies that passed a vote open to all members. But the membership itself is NOT a service.<br>
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The fees members pay are used to fund RIPE's services, but those services are not provided to its members. RIPE's services are provided to the global Internet. So, a member is not paying RIPE for resources or any other service; one becomes a member to join in the governance, and help fund the services, of RIPE.<br>
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You are confusing a RIPE membership with something like a gym "membership", which is not really a membership but (legally) a subscription. The two are very different.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy<br>
Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.<br>
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