<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Gert, It looks like this will happen in around 18 months, as you probably know. Imagine what this list will look like then. Excellent entertainment, I'm sure. To everybody else: The solution to the IPv4 exhaustion problem cannot include anything based on: * Other LIRs IPv4 allocations * Money It is a dead end and waste of time. I understand recent startups lack of addresses is a problem for them but this simply can't be fixed in the ways proposed here. Anyone having trouble paying the agreed upon yearly fee can just contact RIPE's billing department and probably make an arrangement. /Peter <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 2019-01-18 kl. 17:03, skrev Gert Doering: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:20190118160304.GT1543@Space.Net"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi, On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 02:30:33AM +1100, Arash Naderpour wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">So if one day there is no more IPv4 in NCC free pool, do you think it would be good time to go towards a different model? </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> At that point, we'll need to revisit the fee structure in any case. As soon as there is no more "free /22" to be had, the number of *new* LIRs will go down significantly, so the budget coming from the signup fees is gone. We'll need to look long and hard at what the requirements are, which LIRs (and which other aspects) are contributing how much to the costs and then come up with something reasonable to cover the costs. Gert Doering -- NetMaster </pre> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> Unsubscribe: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/peter%40fiberdirekt.se">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/peter%40fiberdirekt.se</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>