<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br>As far as I understood people were transferred the Ipv6 block.<br>They are forced to pay extra 350 euros.<br>And they did not even talk about Ipv4 at all.<br>Why do you talk about market?<br><br>--<br>Alexandr Buzaev<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-07-17 6:20 GMT+00:00 Aleksey Bulgakov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleksbulgakov@gmail.com" target="_blank">aleksbulgakov@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There isn't a secret that noncommercial organisation earns money and doesn't want to share it. But it shows that it cares about members trying to keep IPv4 pool available for future business so long asit possible. But there is market where everyone can buy necessary IPv4 without request to mantioned organisation.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">вт, 17 Июл 2018 г., 9:05 Andrey Levrinets <<a href="mailto:levrinets.andrey@ukr.net" target="_blank">levrinets.andrey@ukr.net</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div><span class="m_223140322256499094m_-2746034901656513226xfm_01562263"><div> <div><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt">Hi all,</span></div> <div><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt">"A member must pay the full annual service fee for each LIR account(s) held before they can transfer resources or close their LIR account(s)"</span></div> <div><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt">There is no word about accounts that have not been active for the full year.</span></div> <div><br></div> <div><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt">--</span></div> <div><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt">Andrey</span></div> </div> <div><br></div> <div><i><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt"><span style="font-family:Arial">16 липня 2018, 13:01:52, від "Freethought Hostmaster" <</span><a href="mailto:hostmaster@freethought-internet.co.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial">hostmaster@freethought-<wbr>internet.co.uk</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial">>:</span></span></i></div> <div><br></div> <blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #cccccc;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><span><span><span></span><span lang="EN-GB"> <div> <div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif">Hi Jens,</span></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif">Actually, the RIPE service fee for new members is charged on a pro-rata basis, so if you join part way through the year, then you only pay for part of the year. I seem to recall that this is done down quarterly granularity.</span></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif">See <a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/payment/billing-procedure-and-fee-schedule-2018#fees-for-new-members" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.ripe.net/<wbr>participate/member-support/<wbr>payment/billing-procedure-and-<wbr>fee-schedule-2018#fees-for-<wbr>new-members</a> for example.</span></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif;color:#000000">Edward Dore <div></div> </span></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif;color:#000000">Freethought Internet</span></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <div style="padding-left:40px"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#000000">From: </span></b></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif;color:#000000">members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.<wbr>net</a>> on behalf of Jens Ott <<a href="mailto:ripe@opteamax.de" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ripe@opteamax.de</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, 16 July <span>2018</span> at 07:02<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [members-discuss] RIPE forces us to pay the bill unfairly <div></div> </span></div> </div> <div> <div style="padding-left:40px"></div> <div><br></div> </div> <div style="padding-left:40px"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif">Hi,<br><br> Please read the charging scheme carefully, it only talks about an annual fee. The offer to pay it in 4 steps is just an offer but doesn't change anything about the amount. There is no monthly fee or daily fee... There are no definitions that entering over the year reduces the costs. <br><br> Maybe we should just remove that offer to not pay everything at once, this would decrease discussions and time for processing a transfer.<br><br> BR<br> Jens</span></div> <div></div> </div> </span></span> <pre style="margin:5px 0">______________________________<wbr>_________________ members-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/members-<wbr>discuss</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/levrinets.andrey%40ukr.net" rel="noreferrer noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/<wbr>mailman/options/members-<wbr>discuss/levrinets.andrey%<wbr>40ukr.net</a> </pre> </span></blockquote></span></div> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> members-discuss mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/members-<wbr>discuss</a><br></div></div> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/aleksbulgakov%40gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/<wbr>mailman/options/members-<wbr>discuss/aleksbulgakov%40gmail.<wbr>com</a><br> </blockquote></div> <br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> members-discuss mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br> <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/members-<wbr>discuss</a><br> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/iberia.buz%40gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/<wbr>mailman/options/members-<wbr>discuss/iberia.buz%40gmail.com</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div>