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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>The “delete” key works well for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Armstrong<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 5, 2017 10:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> members-discuss@ripe.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [members-discuss] Database Abuse<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again, RIPE DB abuse is a real problem. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via an e-mail address we only use for the contact details in our RIPE DB entries.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks, people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for services none of us want to waste time reading about. If we want such products, we all know how find them, and yet the e-mails don't stop coming.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I have a choice. They need to learn that database abuse leads to boycott.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of "potential leads".<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really nothing structural we can do about this? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the public DB, instead having public complaint submitted via a webform on the NCC website, requiring the uninitiated to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, not a sales opportunity.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tim.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img width=96 height=31 style='width:1.0in;height:.325in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://drive.google.com/a/nerdalize.com/uc?id=0B0EM3I3SZxdsdnBncG41WkNSeWp2V3I5Q0NubGVOaUxFNWx3&export=download"><o:p></o:p></p></div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'>Tim Armstrong<br></span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'>Dark Lord of Network Operations<br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#999999;background:white'><a href="tel:+31617544472" target="_blank">+31 6 175 444 72</a></span><o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>