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<div dir="ltr">I agree entirely.<div><br></div>
<div>Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.</div>
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<div>On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:catalin.dominte@paragon.net.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">catalin.dominte@paragon.net.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would be great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned from PeeringDB if one has an account there. </div>
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My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level management from various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never stop. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all the freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight auto-replies!</div>
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<div>On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t.armstrong@nerdalize.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">t.armstrong@nerdalize.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again, RIPE DB abuse is a real problem.
<div>Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via an e-mail address we only use for the contact details in our RIPE DB entries.</div>
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<div>We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks, people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for services none of us want to waste time reading about. If we want such products, we all know
how find them, and yet the e-mails don't stop coming.</div>
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<div>I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I have a choice. They need to learn that database abuse leads to boycott.</div>
<div>The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of "potential leads".</div>
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<div>I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really nothing structural we can do about this? </div>
<div>At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the public DB, instead having public complaint submitted via a webform on the NCC website, requiring the uninitiated to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, not a sales opportunity.</div>
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