<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1>Hi Guys,<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>This is true, a little distracting.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Ideally I need to get back to offering amazing colocation and secure dedicated servers at industry leading low prices in our Tier 3 ISO27001/9001 secure data centre…<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Regards,<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Andy Gilbert – SDC<o:p></o:p>Business Developments<o:p></o:p>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:5.4pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:11.85pt'><td width=324 rowspan=6 valign=top style='width:242.7pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'><o:p> </o:p><img width=302 height=71 style='width:3.1458in;height:.7395in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01D3262F.04545370" alt="cid:image002.png@01D1998B.416E5A30"><o:p></o:p></td><td width=348 colspan=2 valign=top style='width:261.05pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'><o:p> </o:p>Space Data Centres Limited <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p></td></tr><tr style='height:11.85pt'><td width=100 valign=top style='width:74.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'>Tel: <o:p></o:p></td><td width=248 valign=top style='width:186.3pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'>+44 (0)115 975 8285<o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr style='height:11.85pt'><td width=100 valign=top style='width:74.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'>Cell:<o:p></o:p></td><td width=248 valign=top style='width:186.3pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'>+44 (0)792 620 6960<o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr style='height:11.85pt'><td width=100 valign=top style='width:74.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'>Email:<o:p></o:p></td><td width=248 valign=top style='width:186.3pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'><a href="mailto:andy.gilbert@spacedatacentres.co.uk">andy.gilbert@spacedatacentres.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr style='height:11.85pt'><td width=100 valign=top style='width:74.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'>Web:<o:p></o:p></td><td width=248 valign=top style='width:186.3pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'><a href="http://www.spacedatacentres.co.uk">www.spacedatacentres.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr style='height:4.0pt'><td width=100 valign=top style='width:74.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:4.0pt'></td><td width=248 valign=top style='width:186.3pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:4.0pt'></td></tr><tr style='height:11.85pt'><td width=672 colspan=3 valign=top style='width:503.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:11.85pt'><o:p> </o:p>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr style='height:110.9pt'><td width=672 colspan=3 valign=top style='width:503.75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:110.9pt'><o:p> </o:p>This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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September 2017 10:54 An: Tim Armstrong <<a href="mailto:t.armstrong@nerdalize.com">t.armstrong@nerdalize.com</a>>; Catalin Dominte <<a href="mailto:catalin.dominte@paragon.net.uk">catalin.dominte@paragon.net.uk</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse<o:p></o:p></div></div><o:p> </o:p>CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME OFF THIS RECIPIENTS LIST.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>I DIDN’T ASK FOR IT, I HAVE WORK TO DO AND DON’T NEED THIS DISTRACTION<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>From: members-discuss [<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net">mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On Behalf Of Tim Armstrong Sent: dinsdag 5 september 2017 10:52 To: Catalin Dominte Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div>I agree entirely.<o:p></o:p><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div>Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><o:p> </o:p><div>On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte <<a href="mailto:catalin.dominte@paragon.net.uk" target="_blank">catalin.dominte@paragon.net.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p><div><div id="m_-4659045675559036009bloop_customfont">If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would be great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned from PeeringDB if one has an account there. <o:p></o:p></div><div id="m_-4659045675559036009bloop_customfont"><o:p> </o:p></div><div id="m_-4659045675559036009bloop_customfont">My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level management from various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never stop. <o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p><div id="m_-4659045675559036009bloop_sign_1504600906517597952">Catalin Dominte<o:p></o:p><div>Network Manager | Paragon Internet Group<o:p></o:p></div><div>Office: <a href="tel:+44%201628%20200219" target="_blank">+44 (0)1628 200 219</a><o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p><div>The above information is confidential to the addressee and may be privileged. Unauthorised access and use is prohibited. Internet communications are not secure and therefore this company does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Paragon Internet Group Ltd is registered in England and Wales, Company No.07573953<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><o:p> </o:p>On 5 September 2017 at 09:40:56, Telecoms (<a href="mailto:telco@intrinsec.com" target="_blank">telco@intrinsec.com</a>) wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div>There is a new comment in the ticket submitted by Tim Armstrong to Cloud Temple - Cloud Operations<o:p></o:p> Comment added by : Tim Armstrong Comment Content:<o:p></o:p><div>And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all the freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight auto-replies!<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div> <o:p></o:p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div>On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong <<a href="mailto:t.armstrong@nerdalize.com" target="_blank">t.armstrong@nerdalize.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div>Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again, RIPE DB abuse is a real problem. <o:p></o:p><div>Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via an e-mail address we only use for the contact details in our RIPE DB entries.<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div>We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks, people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for services none of us want to waste time reading about. If we want such products, we all know how find them, and yet the e-mails don't stop coming.<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div>I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I have a choice. They need to learn that database abuse leads to boycott.<o:p></o:p></div><div>The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of "potential leads".<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div>I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really nothing structural we can do about this? <o:p></o:p></div><div>At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the public DB, instead having public complaint submitted via a webform on the NCC website, requiring the uninitiated to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, not a sales opportunity.<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div>Tim.<o:p></o:p></div><div><o:p> </o:p></div>--<o:p></o:p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><img border=0 width=97 height=31 style='width:1.0104in;height:.3229in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="https://drive.google.com/a/nerdalize.com/uc?id=0B0EM3I3SZxdsdnBncG41WkNSeWp2V3I5Q0NubGVOaUxFNWx3&export=download"><o:p></o:p></div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'>Tim Armstrong Dark Lord of Network Operations +31 6 175 444 72<o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><o:p> </o:p><div><o:p> </o:p></div>--<o:p></o:p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><img border=0 width=97 height=31 style='width:1.0104in;height:.3229in' id="_x0000_i1027" src="https://drive.google.com/a/nerdalize.com/uc?id=0B0EM3I3SZxdsdnBncG41WkNSeWp2V3I5Q0NubGVOaUxFNWx3&export=download"><o:p></o:p></div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'>Tim Armstrong Dark Lord of Network Operations +31 6 175 444 72<o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><o:p> </o:p></blockquote></div> 6372:154148<o:p></o:p></div></div></div>---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" target="_blank">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". 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From here, you can add or remove addresses.<o:p></o:p></div> <o:p></o:p><div><o:p> </o:p></div>-- <o:p></o:p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><img border=0 width=97 height=31 style='width:1.0104in;height:.3229in' id="_x0000_i1028" src="https://drive.google.com/a/nerdalize.com/uc?id=0B0EM3I3SZxdsdnBncG41WkNSeWp2V3I5Q0NubGVOaUxFNWx3&export=download"><o:p></o:p></div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'>Tim Armstrong Dark Lord of Network Operations <a href="tel:+31617544472" target="_blank">+31 6 175 444 72</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>