<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This sounds like the perfect idea though<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lobby the main providers/generators of Internet Bandwidth usage to only support IPv6 on new tech/products - even if only for initial launch phases.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For example Netflix is starting to do UHD/4k, wouldn’t it be great if we could get them and google and others to only offer 4k/UHD on V6 only for a period of time like 3-6 months or even longer.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The main challenge which makes this a long shot is that you need all of the major content providers to do it together otherwise none of them will because the consumer is so fickle, they will just switch in a heartbeat</div><div class=""><div class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><p class=""><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Anthony Somerset,<br class="">Technical Director,</span></p><p class=""><img src="http://cloudunboxed.net/img/email-logo.png" alt="Cloud Unboxed Limited" border="0" width="220" class=""></p><p class=""><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><strong class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">w:</span></strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" class=""><a title="www.cloudunboxed.net" href="http://www.cloudunboxed.net" class=""><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" class="">cloudunboxed.net</span></a></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">e: </span></strong> </span><a href="mailto:anthony.somerset@cloudunboxed.net" class=""><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" class="">anthony.somerset@cloudunboxed.net</span></a><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""> |<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">t:</span></strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>+44 (0)33 0088 2444</span></p><p class=""><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 128, 0);" class="">Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></p><p class=""><em class=""><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(128, 128, 128);" class="">This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended for the addressed individual or entity only. 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The addressee should check all attachments for malware; the company makes no representation as regards the absence of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> malware in attachments to this e-mail.</span></em></p></div> </div> <br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23 Sep,2016, at 10:16, Tom Lehtinen <<a href="mailto:ripe@tombii.com" class="">ripe@tombii.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 23.09.2016 10:08, Ondřej Caletka wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 22.9.2016 v 23:07 Carlos Friacas wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Tunnels? seriously? no, please...<br class="">End-users shouldn't care about which IP version they are using.<br class=""></blockquote>+1<br class=""></blockquote>+1<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">[snip]<br class="">Maybe a better idea would be to create a fund for financial support of<br class="">IPv6 deployments of providers, especially the big ones. Because most of<br class="">them have no real technical problems, they just deliberately postpone<br class="">the IPv6 adoption unless inevitable. The main idea is the later they<br class="">deploy it, the less money it would cost. They don't have any actual need<br class="">to deploy it, unless, say, YouTube stops playing HD videos to IPv4<br class="">clients. (That would be cool, actually.)<br class="">I'm fully aware that any such support will be unfair to all those that<br class="">already used their own money to deploy IPv6. But on the other hand,<br class="">deploying IPv6 at big providers is in the interest of the RIPE community<br class="">as a whole.<br class=""></blockquote>I'd rather give the money to Google and other large content providers and ask them to stop supporting IPv4. Then let the big telcos deploy IPv6 because finally they will have to unless they want to lose all their customers. Not saying that this is a good idea though...<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Tom<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Best Regards,<br class="">Ondřej Caletka<br class="">CESNET<br class="">----<br class="">If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss<br class="">mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the<br class="">general page:<br class=""><a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a><br class="">Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". 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