Hi, I'm the technical contract for two small LIRs (two completely separate companies). While it might be in my interest in the short term to back a proposal to "reclaim IPv4 addresses", I'd like to my name down twofold for the "stop this time wasting stupidity" team. IPv4 IS DEAD! If you need more then you are misunderstanding what your /22 was allocated to you for (BTW it's a transition utility, it's not intended to be used as primary addressing). Let's move on to constructive discussion on other key topics and stop beating the same dead horse of an augment that seems to rear it's ugly head once a year. It's not going to happen, even if it did it won't change a thing. So get over it and deploy CGN if you are out of addresses. -Tim. <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 21 Sep 2016 11:25 p.m., "Simon Lockhart" <<a href="mailto:s.lockhart@cablecomnetworking.co.uk">s.lockhart@cablecomnetworking.co.uk</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 08:11:34PM +0100, Academia NOC wrote: > I feel this is because their bosses would then start asking if the need it > all. They'd then be pressured financially to return their 'cushions'. And what, exactly, would this achieve? RIPE have sufficient reserves to meet the needs of the current IPv4 allocation policies for the foreseeable future. Do you think that if these 'cushions' were returned, RIPE would suddenly change their allocation policies, and IPv4 would become freely available again? If hell were to freeze over, and this were to happen, then it'd last the grand sum of 6 months, if we're really lucky. More likely, 6 weeks, or even 6 days. And then we're back to where we started from, and we've wasted a load of effort on trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed. STOP TRYING TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO RECLAIM IPv4 ADDRESSES. IT WILL ACHIEVE NOTHING. Simon ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. </blockquote></div></div>