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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tim, <br>
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I would say you get a gold star for recommending something
feasible and realistic. RIPE already had a budget excess of over 5
Mil EUR last year. I would not be opposed if RIPE was tasked with
creating a department to help with IPv6 education through programs
like that.<br>
<br>
Daniel~<br>
<br>
On 09/22/2016 11:51 AM, Tim Armstrong wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Rather than bickering over the last scraps of IPv4,
saving smaller LIRs a few hundred euros, attempting to somehow
screw the older LIRs, or three at the same time. Wouldn't our
time be better spent working out ways to improve end user
adoption of IPv6? </p>
<p dir="ltr">I'd like to propose RIPE set up a fund (summer of
code style) for the implementation of native IPv6 support in
open-source software (such as cloudsta k, etc) and simplifying
end-user adoption. Perhaps we should even offer a free public
IPv6 tunnel service for natural persons similar to the service
currently offered by hurricane electric.</p>
<p dir="ltr">-Tim</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 Sep 2016 6:13 p.m., "Floris Bos"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bos@je-eigen-domein.nl">bos@je-eigen-domein.nl</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On
09/22/2016 01:57 PM, Daniel Pearson wrote:<br>
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I'm not saying that a discussion is bad, but I'm simply
saying that most of the discussions are being had are not
based on fact.<br>
<br>
To my knowledge RIPE doesn't have a list of members
categorized by assignment size, so this is something that
someone would need to parse the RIPE db for, it's all
public record so it can be done.<br>
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Counting all allocated IPv4 each LIR has, and converting it
back to CIDR:<br>
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CIDR Number of LIRs<br>
<br>
<= /24 1<br>
<= /23 4<br>
<= /22 6051<br>
<= /21 1582<br>
<= /20 1638<br>
<= /19 1547<br>
<= /18 1040<br>
<= /17 709<br>
<= /16 386<br>
<= /15 293<br>
<= /14 134<br>
<= /13 110<br>
<= /12 80<br>
<= /11 64<br>
<= /10 25<br>
<= /9 14<br>
<= /8 6<br>
<= /7 2<br>
<br>
IPv6 only 241<br>
<br>
<br>
If we were to take ARIN's fees as example where up to and
including /20 is less expensive than RIPE's current fees,
9276 out of the 13686 LIRs with IPv4 would pay less.<br>
Not just new ones...<br>
<br>
Total income would be similar.<br>
<br>
<br>
Yours sincerely,<br>
<br>
Floris Bos<br>
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