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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=FR-BE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I'm exactly the same opinion as Daniel!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you shift the burden of cost from where it is effectively 'equal' based on per LIR, to based on IP consumption. Small LIR's with say just the single /22 would be paying a couple hundred euro per year. RIPE is <b>not a for-profit business</b>. It is there to provide services, and cover the costs of those services which in the whole grand scheme of things is a big fat phone book of who has what IP space. Nothing more, nothing less.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] <b>De la part de</b> Daniel Pearson<br><b>Envoy� :</b> mercredi 14 septembre 2016 14:36<br><b>� :</b> members-discuss@ripe.net<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I agree with Lu and I think everyone is missing the point and Lu made a very valid post. <br><br>If you shift the burden of cost from where it is effectively 'equal' based on per LIR, to based on IP consumption. Small LIR's with say just the single /22 would be paying a couple hundred euro per year. RIPE is <b>not a for-profit business</b>. It is there to provide services, and cover the costs of those services which in the whole grand scheme of things is a big fat phone book of who has what IP space. Nothing more, nothing less. You can't expect RIPE, ARIN or any other RIR to try and use money as a leverage point to force IPV6, they just don't have that kind of power. Do you really believe that if they tried something like that, they wouldn't be sued into the stoneage? Why do you think legacy IP space still exists, because contracts had been formed and signed giving ownership of those blocks to the purchaser prior to the RIR's existence and the RIR's don't have a legal leg to stand on to get that back. <br><br>Everyone just needs to keep in mind what a RIR really is, respect that, and go on with life, and not try and make it something it isn't or can't become. <br><br>Daniel~<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>