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>Your "incentive plan" does nothing that isn't already taking
place.<br>
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Rubbish, I got multiple /22's and nobody gave me any incentive to
use IPv6. <br>
<br>
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>New ISPs It would only mean that new ISPs would have working
IPv6<br>
>to their website, name servers and a least one PC (which likely
is in<br>
>the lab or the ISP office network). It does nothing to ensure
they<br>
>actually deploy IPv6 to end customers.<br>
<br>
That's not correct, you can incentivize old customers as well by
lowering their prices. If ISP's use IPv6 then they are more likely
to offer it to their customers.<br>
<br>
<br>
>You are on the other hand prolonging their startup time
since<br>
>they can't get anywhere with their IPv4 CGN solution before they<br>
>have working IPv6.<br>
<br>
So what? IPv4 will run out, are you helping them by making it easy?
I'm pro IPv6 but honestly you can't give them away right now.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">> a) Only allow ISP's to order a /22 from
from an IPv6 address.
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> b) Show their website works on IPv6<br>
> c) Show that their name servers use IPv6.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Your "incentive plan" does nothing that isn't
already taking place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">New ISPs It would only mean that new ISPs would
have working IPv6 to their website, name servers and a least
one PC (which likely is in the lab or the ISP office
network). It does nothing to ensure they actually deploy
IPv6 to end customers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">You are on the other hand prolonging their
startup time since they can't get anywhere with their IPv4
CGN solution before they have working IPv6.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">It also does nothing towards moving existing
ISPs with "enough" IPv4 space towards providing IPv6 to the
masses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">IPv4 is legacy. If you only provide IPv4 you
offering is broken.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Stop complaining and start deploying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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