<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="">Le 21 juil. 2016 à 18:31, David Benwell <<a href="mailto:dave@it-communicationsltd.co.uk" class="">dave@it-communicationsltd.co.uk</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: MyriadPro-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 3.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I also agree something needs to be done. Has stated previously, I can see why Ripe are trying to enforce a /22 with an new LR accounts, However this does not resolve the issue that ripe made this rule in the first place to ensure everyone has a equal share.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 3.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I really think ripe needs to address the issue and remove the IP Transfer Service and offer it as a case by case bases only for merging LR accounts.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 3.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Why not have a policy if a LR is no longer meeting the requirements that the IP address space was given then they must be returned.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 3.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">For example, if larger space then say a /22 goes unused for more then 12 months then its assumed its no longer required and then has to be returned back RIPE so can be allocated to other LRs who do need the additional space.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Define « unused » . That’s tricky.</div><div>No one wants to give back address space, so if a LIR doesn’t want it to give it back, it will be quite difficult to have any idea about the real use of the space.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: MyriadPro-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 3.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 3.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">What really annoys me and I have said this before, we get quoted $8 per IP Address via the transfer service now on a /22 that would be £6202.71<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Numbers, cool.</div><div>8$ it’s a one-time fee, isn’t it ?</div><div>So it means you should increase your prices of 0.6$/month/IP, to get your money back in 12 months.</div><div>It’s quite acceptable IMHO.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 34, 243); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1C00FF">David Ponzone<font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="2"> </font></font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 34, 243); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Direction Technique</font></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; 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