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<div>At this moment additional LIR accounts with a /22 will not be able to transfer the /22 within 24 months if i am correct and thus not be able to sell them to another LIR.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Only if that is the case then i agree with lowering the setup fee by 50%.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I agree with David that there should be more control over the IP hoarding issue, but i do not think lowering the setup fee will advantage the hoarding, at least not within 24 months.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">That combined with IPv6 becoming closer and closer, the question would be: will there be still active use of IPv4 by then? :)</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Just my thoughts.</div>
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Op 21 jul. 2016 om 18:39 heeft David Ponzone <<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
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Le 21 juil. 2016 � 18:31, David Benwell <<a href="mailto:dave@it-communicationsltd.co.uk" class="">dave@it-communicationsltd.co.uk</a>> a �crit :</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I also agree something needs to be done. Has stated previously, I can see why Ripe are trying to enforce a /22 with an new LR accounts, However this does not
resolve the issue that ripe made this rule in the first place to ensure everyone has a equal share.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I really think ripe needs to address the issue and remove the IP Transfer Service and offer it as a case by case bases only for merging LR accounts.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Why not have a policy if a LR is no longer meeting the requirements that the IP address space was given then they must be returned.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">For example, if larger space then say a /22 goes unused for more then 12 months then its assumed its no longer required and then has to be returned back RIPE
so can be allocated to other LRs who do need the additional space.</span></div>
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Define � unused � . That�s tricky.</div>
<div>No one wants to give back address space, so if a LIR doesn�t want it to give it back, it will be quite difficult to have any idea about the real use of the space.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">What really annoys me and I have said this before, we get quoted $8 per IP Address via the transfer service now on a /22 that would be �6202.71<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div>Numbers, cool.</div>
<div>8$ it�s a one-time fee, isn�t it ?</div>
<div>So it means you should increase your prices of 0.6$/month/IP, to get your money back in 12 months.</div>
<div>It�s quite acceptable IMHO.</div>
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