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The addressee should check all attachments for malware; the company makes no representation as regards the absence of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> malware in attachments to this e-mail.</span></em></p></div> </div> <br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 Jul,2016, at 20:15, Erik - 8tto Trading Sa <<a href="mailto:erik@8tto.net" class="">erik@8tto.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear moderator<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please can you remove me from this distribution group<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Erik<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>members-discuss [<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Network Operations Centre<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:00 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Policy changes can be proposed please see this link<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.ripe.net/support/training/learn-online/videos/policy-development-process-pdp/policy-development-3.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.ripe.net/support/training/learn-online/videos/policy-development-process-pdp/policy-development-3.html</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think for interested parties we should setup a group outside of this mailing list to propose a change to the policy. The hard part is convincing the members to vote for it because anyone who would be negatively affected would vote against it and anyone positively affected would vote for it. It would be a good attempt and I’d be happy to co-ordinate and spend some time with other members to propose a change or new policy.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Graham</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">members-discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> on behalf of Stefan van Westering <<a href="mailto:stefan@softtech.nl" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">stefan@softtech.nl</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, 21 July 2016 at 18:40<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">I agree on this one.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Met vriendelijke groet,</span></i><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></i><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Stefan van Westering</span></i><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">SoftTech Automatisering B.V.</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class=""><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://3/1" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Engelandlaan 312</a></span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class=""><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://3/1" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">2711 DZ Zoetermeer</a></span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Telefoon Support:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <a href="tel:079%20-%20303%2001%2017" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">079 - 303 01 17</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Telefoon Algemeen:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <a href="tel:079%20-%20593%2075%2016" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">079 - 593 75 16</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Fax:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <a href="tel:079%20-%20331%2093%2063" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">079 - 331 93 63</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Email: </span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="mailto:jeroen@softtech.nl" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">stefan@softtech.nl</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Internet:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="http://www.softtech.nl/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">http://www.softtech.nl</span></a> </span><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">|</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" class=""> <b class="">Email Support:</b></span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="mailto:sbsupport@softtech.nl" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">sbsupport@softtech.nl</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""><br class="">Op 21 jul. 2016 om 19:38 heeft David Benwell <<a href="mailto:dave@it-communicationsltd.co.uk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dave@it-communicationsltd.co.uk</a>> het volgende geschreven:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Spot on. Is there such a voting system in place with ripe with enough votes to change the policy to something like you have said below?<br class=""><br class="">This no doubt will upset some of the LR's who do have /19 /20 /16 doing nothing with them.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: members-discuss [<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On Behalf Of Network Operations Centre<br class="">Sent: 21 July 2016 18:33<br class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account<br class=""><br class="">You have picked one point out of a longer email but I do acknowledge that but to retort a lot of people got MORE than they needed at the time and the two probably balance out. It really comes down to bad controls early on and LIRs being penalised for it now. Some onus should be put on to RIPE to sort out the mess from the past that would go some way to sorting the issue out.<br class=""><br class="">There is I’m sure a way using all of the many tools we have available be able to prove to RIPE what ips are being used. Something like Netflow data would show the percentage of IPs in use across an allocation and upon proof of exhaustion at the local level be entitled to more. Additionally then people hording should be made to return their IP’s until they need them.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">Graham<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">On 21/07/2016, 18:23, "Gert Doering" <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gert@space.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Hi,<br class=""><br class=""> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 05:11:03PM +0000, Network Operations Centre wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">IMHO the current position is hurting the industry and creating un necessary complexity. The final /8 rule was put in to help new LIRs. As a new small LIR its hindering our growth plans period.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><br class=""> What would you say today if we had no "final /8 rule" today, and all<br class=""> IPv4 space would have been used up 5 years ago?<br class=""><br class=""> In other words: you would not even get a /22 today, if the policy were<br class=""> not as restrictive as it is.<br class=""><br class=""> (I find it amazing how loud folks complain about "we cannot get enough!"<br class=""> that only are able to get anything at all because all *others* got less<br class=""> than they wanted, earlier in the game)<br class=""><br class=""> Gert Doering<br class=""> -- NetMaster<br class=""> --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?<br class=""><br class=""> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. 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