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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 27 mai 2016 à 17:04, Arash Naderpour <<a href="mailto:arash.naderpour@gmail.com" class="">arash.naderpour@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I support a forum-style solution, not sure why we cannot have such a thing yet.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Arash Naderpour<br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Dominik Nowacki <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:dominik@clouvider.co.uk" target="_blank" class="">dominik@clouvider.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">Tough. It’s a mailing list, most people do have corporate signatures, I don’t see it changing anytime soon. We can always move from mailing lists
to the forum-style solution if there is enough support for this move.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">Kind Regards,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">Dom<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">uk.clouvider<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class=""> members-discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank" class="">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Demicoli<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> 27 May 2016 10:53<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Bots subscribed to the list<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Can we also get rid of these humongous signatures? Reading a discussion now consists of scrolling past signatures in hope of finding relevant content<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Husam Alhmoud <<a href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com" target="_blank" class="">husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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On May 27, 2016, at 1:45 PM, REG ID: pl.skonet <<a href="mailto:lir@skonet.pl" target="_blank" class="">lir@skonet.pl</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">+1000 to forcefully unsubscribe the bots and auto-responders.<br class="">
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Best regards<br class="">
Tomasz Śląski<br class="">
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W dniu 2016-05-27 o 11:41, Elvis Daniel Velea pisze:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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that has never worked completely. There have always been bots and ticketing systems subscribed to the list.<br class="">
We can all give you a list of the bots and the email addresses that need to be forcefully unsubscribed from the members-discuss list.<br class="">
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So, I think it's time we propose and vote to give the RIPE NCC the mandate to really maintain this mailing list and forcefully unsubscribe the bots and auto-responders.<br class="">
Dear members, do you agree with my idea?<br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On 5/27/16 11:37 AM, Fergal Cunningham wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<pre class="">*From:* members-discuss [<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank" class="">mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] *On<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></pre>
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<pre class="">*Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2016 12:27 PM<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></pre>
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<pre class="">Can I please ask RIPE staff to look at the list again and get all the<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></pre>
<pre class="">bots to be unsubscribed ? It’s very disruptive to get a significant<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></pre>
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