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Hi David,<br>
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it is rather simple - no regulation could works better than free
market. Implement simple policy for anyone to pay for each /24 (and
we can start on actual "black market" price cast for 3-4 years) and
you will see how many LIR will return unused space quickly.
Otherwise you just try to achieve impossible. No artificial
regulation will work in conditions, where there is limited number of
resources - people are very creative in finding the ways how to bend
any rule, if they need to. And such policy is also really fair: more
resources you have (more income you can generate on them), more you
have to pay for - in linear way.<br>
<br>
With growing number of small LIRs (aka /22 LIRs), it is just mater
of time, when these new LIRs will realize, that:<br>
<br>
- they have voting rights and they have same vote like the "old big
ones"<br>
- they pay much more per resource than "old big ones"<br>
- and they will finally vote for this policy, whatever dinosaurs
thinks :-)<br>
- the last IPv4 space run-out could just accelerate this<br>
<br>
So to your question - if someone keeps unused resource to speculate
on it or just to have future reserve - let him do it, but he should
pay it's market price (lets say for now 1000USD per /24 per year).
Believe me, that no RIPE audit will work better than this rather
simple billing policy.<br>
<br>
P.S.: ISP's in my country happily charge customers 4USD per month
for one public IPv4 (so even with 1000USD per /24 per year they will
still get~ 1200% profit, so please don't argue that it is
overpriced).<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
Dominik<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/27/2016 10:34 AM, David Benwell
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<p class="MsoNormal">With IPv4 running out and LIRs only being
allowed final /22 in my view makes it unfair to new members
who may need additional addresses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With some of the other LIRs having for
example /19 unused makes it unfair for them to advertise their
unused address space on the transfer service and want to
charge up words of �8 per IP Address.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Given the fact the IP Addresses is a public
resource, I fail to see how it should be allowed for LIRs to
make a profit out of unused space.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There should be a policy and if the address
space is not used / required, it must be handed back to the
public pool of resources so can then be allocated to other
LIRS as part of their annual membership.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I even recall the Government sitting on �I
believe� a /8 and then tried to sell this off to raise money.
Again this should not be allowed. LIRS should NOT be able to
make profit for selling a public resource.
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