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<p>Agree. As a fresh member i would probably have not signed up to a
forum.</p>
<p>I think that people also think more about what, if anything, they
bring to the discussion before replying to a mailing list. Forums,
not so much.<br>
</p>
-Aleksi Ursin<br>
Magna Capax Finland<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27.5.2016 18:22, David Ponzone
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:5B96FE5C-CC91-400F-BAD8-21570A52E680@gmail.com"
type="cite">
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I think it was agreed not so long ago that a forum would reduce
the amount of actual readers.<br class="">
<div class="">Push works better than pull, that’s a fact.</div>
<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">Le 27 mai 2016 à 17:04, Arash Naderpour <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:arash.naderpour@gmail.com" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arash.naderpour@gmail.com">arash.naderpour@gmail.com</a></a>>
a écrit :</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">I support a forum-style solution,
not sure why we cannot have such a thing yet.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Arash Naderpour<br class="">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:57
PM, Dominik Nowacki <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dominik@clouvider.co.uk"
target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dominik@clouvider.co.uk">dominik@clouvider.co.uk</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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lang="EN-GB">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class="">Tough. It’s a mailing list, most
people do have corporate signatures, I
don’t see it changing anytime soon. We can
always move from mailing lists to the
forum-style solution if there is enough
support for this move.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class="">Kind Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class="">Dom</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class="">uk.clouvider</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class="" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
class="" lang="EN-US"> members-discuss
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net"
target="_blank" class="">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Christopher
Demicoli<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> 27 May 2016 10:53<br
class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re:
[members-discuss] Bots subscribed to the
list</span></p>
<div class="">
<div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal">Can we also get rid
of these humongous signatures? Reading
a discussion now consists of scrolling
past signatures in hope of finding
relevant content</p>
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<div class="">
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<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 27,
2016 at 11:47 AM, Husam Alhmoud <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com"
target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com">husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com</a></a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes</p>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br
class="">
On May 27, 2016, at 1:45
PM, REG ID: pl.skonet <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lir@skonet.pl"
target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lir@skonet.pl">lir@skonet.pl</a></a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal">+1000
to forcefully
unsubscribe the bots and
auto-responders.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Best regards<br class="">
Tomasz Śląski<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
W dniu 2016-05-27 o
11:41, Elvis Daniel
Velea pisze:</p>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
Fergal,<br class="">
<br class="">
that has never worked
completely. There have
always been bots and
ticketing systems
subscribed to the list.<br
class="">
We can all give you a
list of the bots and the
email addresses that
need to be forcefully
unsubscribed from the
members-discuss list.<br
class="">
<br class="">
So, I think it's time we
propose and vote to give
the RIPE NCC the mandate
to really maintain this
mailing list and
forcefully unsubscribe
the bots and
auto-responders.<br
class="">
Dear members, do you
agree with my idea?<br
class="">
<br class="">
regards,<br class="">
elvis</p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal">On
5/27/16 11:37 AM,
Fergal Cunningham
wrote:</p>
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<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
<pre class="">Dear colleagues,</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">We will contact the autoresponders and carry out our periodic effort to</pre>
<pre class="">contact the responsible people.</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Best regards,</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Fergal Cunningham</pre>
<pre class="">Membership Communications Officer</pre>
<pre class="">RIPE NCC</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">On 27/05/16 10:31, Husam AlHmoud wrote:</pre>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
<pre class="">I fully agree with Dominik, it reduces the interest in reading and</pre>
<pre class="">participating in any discussion and/or subject.</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Regards,</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">* *</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">*Husam AlHmoud*</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Cloud & Hosting Director</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com" target="_blank" class="">husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com" target="_blank" class=""><mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com></a></pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">*From:* members-discuss [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank" class="">mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] *On</pre>
<pre class="">Behalf Of *Dominik Nowacki</pre>
<pre class="">*Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2016 12:27 PM</pre>
<pre class="">*To:* <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a></pre>
<pre class="">*Subject:* [members-discuss] Bots subscribed to the list</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Hi,</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Can I please ask RIPE staff to look at the list again and get all the</pre>
<pre class="">bots to be unsubscribed ? It’s very disruptive to get a significant</pre>
<pre class="">number of ticket desks, autoresponders, or mailer daemon emails every</pre>
<pre class="">time you send anything to the discussion list…</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Kind Regards,</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Dom</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">uk.clouvider</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
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<pre class="">If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss</pre>
<pre class="">mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:</pre>
<pre class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" target="_blank" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a></pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
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<pre class="">----</pre>
<pre class="">If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss</pre>
<pre class="">mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:</pre>
<pre class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" target="_blank" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a></pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.</pre>
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<h1
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"
class=""><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1a9bd7"
class="">Elvis
Daniel Velea</span></h1>
<h2
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm"
class="">
<span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#74757d;font-weight:normal"
class="">Chief
Executive
Officer</span></h2>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:3.75pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:15.0pt;font-weight:regular"
class="">
<span
style="font-size:
9pt;
font-family:
Arial,
sans-serif;"
class="">E-mail:</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#74757d"
class=""> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:elvis@V4Escrow.net" target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:elvis@V4Escrow.net">elvis@V4Escrow.net</a></a><br
class="">
</span><span
style="font-size:
9pt;
font-family:
Arial,
sans-serif;"
class="">Mobile:</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#74757d"
class=""> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1%C2%A0%28702%29%C2%A0970%C2%A00921" value="+17029700921"
target="_blank"
class="">+1 (702) 970 0921</a></span></p>
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align="center">
<span
style="font-size:
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font-family:
Arial,
sans-serif;"
class="">Recognised
IPv4
Broker/Facilitator
in:</span></p>
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<pre class="">If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss</pre>
<pre class="">mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:</pre>
<pre class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" target="_blank" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a></pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.</pre>
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class="">
If you don't want to receive
emails from the RIPE NCC
members-discuss<br class="">
mailing list, please log in to
your LIR Portal account and go
to the general page:<br
class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/"
target="_blank" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Click on "Edit my LIR
details", under "Subscribed
Mailing Lists". From here, you
can add or remove addresses.</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br class="">
----<br class="">
If you don't want to receive
emails from the RIPE NCC
members-discuss<br class="">
mailing list, please log in to
your LIR Portal account and go to
the general page:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/"
target="_blank" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Click on "Edit my LIR details",
under "Subscribed Mailing Lists".
From here, you can add or remove
addresses.</p>
</blockquote>
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</div>
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<br class="">
----<br class="">
If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE
NCC members-discuss<br class="">
mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal
account and go to the general page:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed
Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove
addresses.<br class="">
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
----<br class="">
If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC
members-discuss<br class="">
mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and
go to the general page:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing
Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.</div>
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