<div dir="ltr">In this analogy RIPE need to handle that. I think not a good think if old/big telcos/ISP's are holding many ipv4 address, because they can. This also not helping to incraise IPv6 penetration, especially for end users (costumer internet connections, etc).<div><br></div><div>(by the way, also i don't think it is normal, some old organisation/companys in US holding /8, because back in the '90's when they received ipv4 exhausing doesnt matter)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="5" style="font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td><strong>Köszönettel:</strong></td><td align="right">Csárdi-Braunstein János</td><td rowspan="6"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><img src="https://static.mikrovps.hu/images/logo.png"></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Email:</strong></td><td align="right"><a href="mailto:info@mikrovps.hu" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">info@mikrovps.hu</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Telefon:</strong></td><td align="right">+3694200210</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Mikrovps" title="" target="_blank"><img src="https://static.mikrovps.hu/images/icons/facebook.png" alt="facebook"></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MikroVPS" title="" target="_blank"><img src="https://static.mikrovps.hu/images/icons/twitter.png" alt="twitter"></a> <a href="https://plus.google.com/+MikrovpsHu" title="" rel="publisher" target="_blank"><img src="https://static.mikrovps.hu/images/icons/gplus.png" alt="google plus"></a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/mikrovps" title="" target="_blank"><img src="https://static.mikrovps.hu/images/icons/linkedin.png" alt="linkedin"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-17 19:37 GMT+01:00 Thomas Mangin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas.mangin@exa-networks.co.uk" target="_blank">thomas.mangin@exa-networks.co.uk</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 17 Feb 2016, at 17:17, MikroVPS wrote:<br>
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I think IP addresses as like radio frequencies (spectrum), it's limited. You can't own/hold frequencies without using that, you need to give back to national organisation what manages that, to allocate new companies, and you can't sell that also. Why RIPE/ARIN/etc can't do this with IPv4 addresses? I not really see the difference.<br>
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I can understand your line of thought but this analogy does not work. Governments can impose laws on their businesses, the RIPE NCC can not.<br>
Also most frequencies are SOLD at GREAT VALUE to Telcos - funding governments - when thanks to the RIPE NCC model, IPs are nearly free.<br>
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So unless you are suggesting that IP address management should be governed by the ITU - and I for one does not - the RIPE NCC can only bind LIR by contractual laws .. and trying to enforce it internationally would sure be painful to watch.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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