<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hello, discussed all these multiple times. I hereby offer you the solution to all problems in basic 2 steps. 1- remove the current policy and distribute the last of the last /8 in first come first served fashion just like what ARIN did sometime ago. When there is no IPV4 to give out , this whole discussion becomes irrelevant and problem solved. 2- ARIN , RIPE and all other IP registries come together and force google, yandex, baidu etc. all the big indexes of the world to give extra points to IPV6 sites in search results. When search engines , especially google displays IPV6 enabled results first and gives them the first pages on search results, everybody will demand IPV6 automagically. All it needs is a public announcement from Google that IPV6 is now an extra point for SEO. When the myth becomes reality and users all around the world starts demanding IPV6 for search engine optimization, I am betting you will be very very surprised how IPV6 goes out of the roof... <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-02-2016 22:42, Denis Fondras wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:20160214204218.GA23120@jigai" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">[1] If we're being realistic, such a IPv4 reclamation project would be a colossal undertaking. The current holders is not going to part with their space willingly. The only ones that would actually benefit from the endeavour would be attorneys. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Tore is absolutely right and sums up the issue for those who would like to reclaim unused space. If you had spare, would you give it to another SP ? </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Because it allow compagnies to born, not to live. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> That's the point of the last-/8 policy, give a start. Starting a hosting company or ISP today, you have to take into account the fact that IPv4 is not distributed evenly (just like money or food or anything that is finite) and RIPE won't help you after the first /22. We (small businesses and LIR from the last-/8) live in the IPv4 third world. Then you'd better be rich or creative if you want to survive. Denis ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Teşekkür eder, iyi çalışmalar dilerim. ----------------------------------------------------------- Şükru Emre Erim - Medyabim Internet Hizmetleri Sistem Yöneticisi / Systems Administrator Kükürtlü mah. Oulu Cad. Oylum Gökberk Sit. F Blok K:3 D:13 Osmangazi / BURSA Tel.: +90 224 2254475 - Fax.: +90 224 2200630 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.medyabim.com.tr">http://www.medyabim.com.tr</a> - <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:admin@medyabim.com.tr">admin@medyabim.com.tr</a></pre> </body> </html>