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</a></div></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">El 12 feb 2016, a las 13:03, Dariusz Siedlecki <<a href="mailto:dariusz.siedlecki@olss.pl" class="">dariusz.siedlecki@olss.pl</a>> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Witam,<br class=""><br class="">I agree 100% with this opinion.<br class=""><br class="">It should be prohibited to sell/buy address space between two LIR (not /22 also olders assignments).<br class="">It should be some solidarity or prices should be regulated by RIPE not by market.<br class=""><br class="">Now companies who have lot of IPv4 are against any changes.<br class="">New companies have tied hands.<br class="">And RIPE is in the middle.<br class=""><br class="">But they all pay the same fee.<br class=""><br class="">Best regards<br class="">Dariusz<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 12/02/2016 09:34, Kurt Jaeger wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">No, seriously: use IPv6.<br class=""></blockquote>Most of my customers have IPv6.<br class="">Sadly, the rest of the do not<br class=""><br class="">On 12/02/2016 11:59, Dominik Nowacki wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">This, or CG NAT. 1 village / end point / 1-2 IPs and CG NAT for the whole village + /56 IPv6 per household.<br class=""></blockquote>Is really CGNAT the RIPE-NCC solution for ipv4 exhaustion ?<br class="">As a network engineer, and as a customer, CGNAT look like the worst<br class="">solution.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">To answer the talk from Gert and other, about the holy mission of the<br class="">RIPE, I agree with them, somehow.<br class="">The RIPE is supposed to show justice, right ? Equality ? Good not evil ?<br class=""><br class="">Let's reap all useless IPv4.<br class="">You want to sell IPv4 ? Obviously, you do not need that subnet.<br class="">You do not announce that subnet over the internet ? Reaped.<br class="">You want to transfert that subnet between two obviously not related<br class="">compagny ? Reaped.<br class=""><br class="">As the Protector of the weaks, and to preserve viability of the<br class="">newcommers, the RIPE-NCC *must not* allow people to make business on the<br class="">back of the new.<br class="">IPv4 are a resource of common interest, not a plot of land that can be<br class="">sell to the richer.<br class=""><br class="">Do not you think ?<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">----<br class="">If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss<br class="">mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:<br class=""><a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" class="">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a><br class=""><br class="">Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>